So I have failed hard.

[Jinko]

Flood did 88 damage against Ifrit. Same with Freeze, and Tornado.

When the hell do I, as a Red Wizard (Conjurer) get to shine seriously? If I did 1k I would be happy with myself that I could do something besides heal.

You need to break his horns before you can damage him (elementally at least) once his horns were broke I was doing 250 on Tornado, which is still shockingly craptastic but hey ho, SE seem to always screw mages over.

That being said they are supposedly redoing mage classes when they upgrade to the job system, we can only hope they make black mage worthwhile.

You're not gonna do heavy damage on Ifrit. Thats what Lancers are for.... Besides you should be conserving your mp for healing your party that is dying repeatedly

Don't give me that bullshit, this is the kind of idiotic thinking that resticts classes to playing one role.

Why even bother giving CON elemental spells if all we are supposed to do is heal, healing is for pussies.

[Keftenk]

You either have terrible luck, or terrible gear?
Our mages can hit Ifrit with 500+ Tornados. Not every time, but it happens, average is probably 200-350ish

[Arcell]

Don't give me that bullshit, this is the kind of idiotic thinking that resticts classes to playing one role.

Why even bother giving CON elemental spells if all we are supposed to do is heal, healing is for pussies.

Because the initial plan was to let Conjurer do both though I don't think they would excel at one or the other. As I'm quite sure you've seen Conjurer has been getting more and more healing/raise spells which would kind of force it more into the healer role. At least before with battle regimens you could lower the magic defense and get the numbers pretty high.

[Jinko]

Because the initial plan was to let Conjurer do both though I don't think they would excel at one or the other. As I'm quite sure you've seen Conjurer has been getting more and more healing/raise spells which would kind of force it more into the healer role. At least before with battle regimens you could lower the magic defense and get the numbers pretty high.

Are you serious, they just changed Ancient magic in patch 1.19 and are planning to add a blackmage job, which from what I understand should be equipable by both THM and CON.

Granted if they do decide to remove CON's elemental spell, they sure as shit better give them to THM.

In almost any other MMO out there mage type jobs are generally the top DPS's yet in this game they suck and in 11 they were made useless because of those stupid colibri.

LNC is only the top DPS because they nerfed ARC so bad they are basically useless now, as usual SE have no idea how to balance anything.

[EmeraldHill]

I remember when lancer was a joke.

[Arcell]

Are you serious, they just changed Ancient magic in patch 1.19 and are planning to add a blackmage job, which from what I understand should be equipable by both THM and CON.

Where are people getting this idea? IIRC it was supposed to be 1 class -> 1 job for now. Did they announce something somewhere that changed that? I must have missed it if so...

[Jinko]

No they said you had to be a specific class to unlock the job quest, they never said if BLM was THM only or DoM only.

[Evangela]

spell damage always a big joke for magic lovers....

[Laughlyn]

Wiz-Jin never failz!
He only have some bad dayz!
( ^.^)b

[grandm]

blackmage kick ass dps
whitemage heal heal heal

i say wait till the jobs come out and if you still have a hard time doing damage, then complain.