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  1. #71
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    Colorful's Avatar
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    Charlotte Elise
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    Kujata
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    if they give them all different designs the player will just complain that x looks better then y, y wants to quit because of that etc.

    everytime the same nonsense, glamour it if you dont like the style =w=
    Because they're not already complaining now? If they don't want players to complain, make it a token based system and let any class glamour any other set that they can't equip. Don't like the Monk/Ninja gear? Equip the DRG one. For gear that's worthless on your main and a patch that brings no major progression to the table other than glamour, I'd appreciate glamour choices that I actually liked the look of.
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  2. #72
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    Akselier's Avatar
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    Luciana Blitzkrieg
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    Tonberry
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    The palette swap is a good point, but the black theme of the gear fits with the Void Ark, so that's okay with me. Not like every gear that SE comes out with is always black.
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  3. #73
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    Velhart's Avatar
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Despite not caring for how the gear sets look, my complaint is not towards that. It is making simply palette swaps for roles like Scouting - Striking or Casting - Healing. Reusing palettes is perfectly fine for dungeon gear, however for major content people will be spending weeks to months to obtain (24 main raid and 8 man raids), you really should be putting a little more effort to make sure each gear set looks unique in it's own right. At best for HW, the end game gear seems fine but uninspired. Only AF so far truly stands out.

    Also as someone has pointed out, there are starting to become multiple jobs per one gear set now. Most aiming gear is definitely designed with BRD's in mind. MCH are also part of this now and the only real notable MCH looking gear so far is the AF itself and the ilvl160 gear. Not saying to go the other extreme, but they should take into mind that there are multiple jobs to this set.
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  4. #74
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    Gilraen's Avatar
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    Gilraen Bior
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 70
    You do know it isn't always Scouting-Striking. Scouting tends to be palette swaps of Striking or Aiming, but it also happens that Aiming sometimes palette swaps with Maiming or Striking. The point is there's always been palette swaps as far back as 1.0 (Darklight says "Hi") and yet so few actually complain about it. The biggest complaints I've seen are reusing armor models and they've been doing a pretty good job keeping the sets unique enough that they aren't incessantly reusing assets. And no, the leveling sets in Heavensward doesn't count because those were mostly glamour bait.
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  5. #75
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    C'alih Tia
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Einheri View Post
    IMO there are too many sets bogging down the loot tables. One set of class specific armor is fine per season.
    [...]
    That's 6 sets of armor. Currently they would need to make 13 sets for each class to have there own.
    Well, that's not really the point of this thread. Plus, they already have separate gearsets (apart from casters, tanks, healers and ranged having shared gearsets)... it's just that visually a lot of them look the same apart from colour.
    Caster and healer gearsets share the same look.
    MNK and NIN gearsets share the same look -- though sometimes it's been MNK and DRG or even MNK and NIN and DRG.

    And now with Void Ark, it seems tanks share the same look (apart from the skirt) as DRG.

    Having different looks for all seven gearsets doesn't mean they bog down the loot tables any more than they do today.

    I understand the need to save valuable time, especially as I've heard that Japanese work ethics kind of don't care how long it takes to get something done, as long as it gets done by a certain date -- if that means overtime and loads of stress, it doesn't matter as long as they get the desired result. If that's true (and not just horror stories), then I can certainly understand wanting to take shortcuts. Unfortunately, it doesn't mean that said shortcuts -- like easy palette swaps for various gearsets, instead of designing an entirely separate gearset -- doesn't get annoying every time they happen ^^;
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  6. #76
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Eul View Post
    I'm bored with healer and caster outfit. They keep making curtain robe until now... (And yet, dungeon item still not dyeable)
    This time it is long coats, not robes

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  7. #77
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    Abzoluut Abzoluut
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    Odin
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Search the forums guys, this "layziness" has been frowned upon by the community for years (including threads of yours truly). I believe we got a vague response once. They basically don't have time to design gear because of the patches that have to drop every 3ish months.

    I just hope SE will give us more exciting gear. The recycle-method is real unfortunately. It needs to stop.
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  8. #78
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    Abyss King
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 60
    I am not sure if i recall correctly, but they had plans to create a system so we could use parts from other classes into our own, to create more 'unique' sets..

    Then the problem would be solved!

    Would love to see my PLD with a Jet Black Hoodie ^^
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  9. #79
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    Abyss King
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by abzoluut View Post
    Search the forums guys, this "layziness" has been frowned upon by the community for years (including threads of yours truly). I believe we got a vague response once. They basically don't have time to design gear because of the patches that have to drop every 3ish months.

    I just hope SE will give us more exciting gear. The recycle-method is real unfortunately. It needs to stop.
    I agree with you, they have to hire one more person to that gear design department, he'll have 3 months to think about new clothes for all jobs. in 5 years that will be clothes for 50 different jobs, so he might ask for a raise lol
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  10. #80
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    Miranda Madison
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Like I said, glamouring the Orison set for the rest of my FFXIV life.
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