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    Whocareswhatmynameis's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    The Demon Set, for example, is the UGLIEST of the whole game for me.


    Just be glad you don't look like this BS!!!

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    Last edited by Whocareswhatmynameis; 10-16-2015 at 09:07 AM.

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    Player Selli's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    The Demon Set, for example, is the UGLIEST of the whole game for me.
    B-But my Ninja looks so cute. QwQ

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    Player Eidolon's Avatar
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    The DRG/Tank Design... Seems just lazy. :/

    Like, the MNK/NIN reskins were always reasonable to me. But... DRG's not a tank. XD They're not the same armor class (Chain vs. plate) so this is dissapointing to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    But... DRG's not a tank.
    Gotta hold that floor aggro, bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    The DRG/Tank Design... Seems just lazy. :/

    Like, the MNK/NIN reskins were always reasonable to me. But... DRG's not a tank. XD They're not the same armor class (Chain vs. plate) so this is dissapointing to me.
    just an example:

    Tortoiseshell Scale Mail

    Requires: GLA MRD LNC PLD WAR DRG DRK

    Also, the body of the Ark set don't look very metalic ^^
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    Last edited by Felis; 10-16-2015 at 10:47 PM.

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    Player Eidolon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    just an example:

    Tortoiseshell Scale Mail

    Requires: GLA MRD LNC PLD WAR DRG DRK
    Dragoon is in a heavier armor class (Chain) than the other DPS (MNK/NIN/BRD = Leather, SMN/BLM = Cloth)

    For example:
    Bronze Cuirass
    Level 15
    GLD, MRD, PLD, WAR, DRK <- No Dragoon/Lancer here due to it being 'Plate' armor.

    For further example, take a look at the jobs that can use leather-based armors

    Plundered Jacket
    Level 17
    Disciples of War (NIN/MNK/DRG/BRD/MCH/WAR/DRK/PLD) <- [b]there are no CLoth users in this catagory, no casters.

    By your logic, all of the "Disciple of War" classes should look the same, which is a horrible logic.

    The gear should be (And has always been):

    [Plate] : Tanks
    [Chain] : DRG (And any new jobs they release)
    [Leather - Ranged] : BRD/MCH
    [Leather - Melee] : MNK/NIN
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    Plate] : Tanks
    [Chain] : DRG (And any new jobs they release)
    [Leather - Ranged] : BRD/MCH
    [Leather - Melee] : MNK/NIN
    You make it too simple

    Ninjas have a chainmale (the AF), DRG can wear some Cuiras which is plate, tanks can wear chain and the other melee can also wear gears an armorer have crafted. And you forgot [Scale].

    Not the material decide it, what is written in the info text decide it.

    And there are also some healer body that is leather:
    http://xivdb.com/?item/8513/Serpent-Elite%27s-Robe
    http://xivdb.com/?item/11166/Woad-Skydruid%27s-Fur
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    Last edited by Felis; 10-17-2015 at 02:00 AM.

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    Player Eidolon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    You make it too simple

    Ninjas have a chainmale (the AF), DRG can wear some Cuiras which is plate, tanks can wear chain and the other melee can also wear gears an armorer have crafted. And you forgot [Scale].

    Not the material decide it, what is written in the info text decide it.

    And there are also some healer body that is leather:
    http://xivdb.com/?item/8513/Serpent-Elite%27s-Robe
    http://xivdb.com/?item/11166/Woad-Skydruid%27s-Fur
    You're attempting to use oddly specific details in an effort to undermind an arguement. Alright, challenge accepted.

    (Note: Some numbers may be a little off as it's a quick check by literally scrolling down and counting in the head... which can sometimes get a little bit mussed as you go when you're also checking to identify the armor type)

    A search of healer body pieces 1-50 yielded:
    Weaver: 70
    Leatherworker: 4
    ARM/BSM: 0


    A search of Pugilist body pieces 1-50 yielded:
    Weaver: 60~
    Leatherworker: 20~

    a search of Dragoon body pieces 1-50 yielded:
    Weaver: 60~
    Leatherworker: 16~
    Armorer: 20~

    a search of Warrior body pieces 1-50 yielded:
    Armorer: 35~



    It doesn't take a genius to infer that the armor class of each one tends to be quite different, with "Tank" being the top-tier armor class (and likewise having access to the most pieces of armor types), Dragoon being just under them, then Monk/Ninja being a step below that, with Healers at the bottom of the 'armor totem pole.'

    Now, yes - I will not deny you that there are, indeed, outliers in any scenario. However, as stated in my original post:

    Dragoons are not Tanks. The design of the Dragoon gear is extremely lazy - it was literally the Tank gear with a skirt taken off (or, vice-versa: The tank gear was the Dragoon gear with a skirt added on.) and doesn't match the 'theme' of the way the armor is differentiated between classes.
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    Dominant Bear
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    Summoner Lv 90


    TELL ME I'M PRETTY!
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    Indira Light
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    I'm really disappointed too. I thought SE could have come up with something more creative.
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