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  1. #41
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    Ellehym's Avatar
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    Ellehym Kyrie
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    Hyperion
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    Summoner Lv 60
    doesn't really seem like that big of a deal. yea the tank should have waited for buffs at least, but you still could have easily sprinted after him, sc protect and then spammed cure 2. well, assuming you are overgeared that is.

    when i tank i always ask before doing big pulls, and i check gear and party composition. if we die, and it's not because something random (like a d/c) i switch to normal pulls.
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  2. #42
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    Welsper59's Avatar
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    Eros Maxima
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    That tank was being dumb. Tanks like those are the reason why speed running looks bad.
    Truth.

    The current mentality in general of what a speed run is needs reworking. We have some of the dumbest outlooks pertaining to SRs in this game. People actually believe saving a few minutes is something noteworthy in a 4-man dungeon. As though those precious few minutes is a matter of life and death in their efforts to play a video game. Fine to do, but there's no need to flip out on or ridicule your party if it goes badly, as many instances of such things result in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ellehym View Post
    doesn't really seem like that big of a deal. yea the tank should have waited for buffs at least, but you still could have easily sprinted after him, sc protect and then spammed cure 2. well, assuming you are overgeared that is.

    when i tank i always ask before doing big pulls, and i check gear and party composition. if we die, and it's not because something random (like a d/c) i switch to normal pulls.
    For most of us that have healed such situations, or paid attention to how things flowed with or without a wipe, chances are quite high that the tank in question is an idiot about tanking in general. They're what I would call the "carried" tanks. They might even have raid clears under their belt, but they did so with party members who accommodated to their poor abilities. Thankfully for them, being a tank is hardly a difficult thing to do in these situations.

    Back in ARR, I've had tanks, just like the OP, who end up pulling way more than they can handle. As in 80-90% HP drop every 2sec with a party that consists of nothing but melee. They're the most common type of successful bad tanks, and they're all over the place in 50+ content. They're the idiots who will constantly do "SR" type pulls even after multiple wipes, telling everyone they're either bad or they just need to play better, instead of adjust and do things normally... assuming they haven't dropped the group by that point. Speaking of "normal", maybe it's just me but there's a lot of these types of players (not just tanks) who, if told to do something normal, they'll vehemently argue that something like an SR "is normal". I swear, if I could just end them IRL...
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    Last edited by Welsper59; 10-16-2015 at 05:10 AM.

  3. #43
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    Quenn's Avatar
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    Quenn Berry
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    Cerberus
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Eul View Post
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    I just had this problem there now with a nasty tank. There were two of us in Thornmarch. We we were fighting before everyone was wiped. Now I done nothing but heal and regen. Once we were wiped I saw a message saying "Quenn Berry, WAKE UP!"
    I asked what I did wrong and he told me to "Heal or Leave".
    I responded with "I done nothing but Heal!"
    He tried to say he was watching me the whole time.
    I was keeping on top of the HP until a big wipe came One of the other players even announced a wipe was coming!

    I have to admit, it's infuriating. Not only that but I stayed in the fight and having to heal the guy was getting to me too. I know it's childish but he was a dick. Later on he called someone a 'NOOB'. I am assuming it was one of the DPSs this time as he was pointing out something to do with one of the enemies.

    In the end we were a slither of HP away from beating King Mog but most of us were wiped and it was only himself and another DPS.
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  4. #44
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    Ksenia's Avatar
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    Ksenia Solo
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    Sargatanas
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    Weaver Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalsam View Post
    Even so, is it that difficult for them to take maybe 30 seconds to a minute to just make sure everyone's ready to begin speed running?
    I'd rather use a minute at the beginning to be completely ready, than to wipe and take more time. More so when there is bound to be that ONE person that will then take the next 2-3 minutes to yell at the healer or tank for being 'bad scrubs'. :P
    One would think that would be the case but I've had multiple wipes after repeated efforts to point out my MP wasn't regenerating between pulls. Simply put, the tank had to slow down because I wasn't geared for speed run but do you think he'd listen?
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  5. #45
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    Blind Guardian
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    cant really say if he was in the wrong because people have different ideas of what a lot of mobs are. if they pulled EVERYTHING up to the first boss (very doable), then yeah thats really stupid to do in a pug. u should be able to handle everything minus 1-2 packs though
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  6. #46
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    Ren Nilla
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    Adamantoise
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Oh boy. When I get in situations like that, as a Healer, I tend to react to it in the "It's my way or the high way," route.

    Speeding through a dungeon is fun, but it's not when the party isn't ready.

    Tank's a derp in this situation. I guess they really needed to go fast. I wouldn't have put up their crap, either.
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  7. #47
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    I hate trhis as a healer, as someone who tanked and healed @ 60 I can pretty much say that is not good tanking that "leeroy" tanking. I actually had the reverse happen recently.

    I was a tank in halatali and ran into a healer who wanted me to mass pull. I'm sitting here as a lvl 23 barely able to handle aggro from being rusty at gla in not even the best gear.

    I got told to quit the game since I was struggling. both the healer who was whm and a smn keot mocking me, Luckily my b/f who was the other dps amd stood up for me.
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  8. #48
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    Eye_Gore's Avatar
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    Yolanda Freebush
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    Malboro
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Broken record time. Communication, at the start did you happen to say you just switched classes and you're not ready yet? You didn't mention that. A quick, "hold on one second" and then tell them you're abilities aren't up yet, may have prevented what happened to begin with. I know 9 times out of 10 in a PUG group no one talks other than a hello, but if someone says hang on a second, I'll stop and wait.

    Now if that was said and they still ran off, well then not much to do there
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  9. #49
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    Asahina Karayami
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    Siren
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    Botanist Lv 90
    I dont even move if stupid "tanks" like that guy pulling all the map <,< (or even more than 1 group of mobs!)

    ---------> its DUUUUUUUUUUUUUTY FINDER! You meet RAAAAAANDOM people! <------

    Not every1 like those respectless so called "Speed" runs!
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  10. #50
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    Yaichiro Shimo
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by AsahinaMyLove View Post
    I dont even move if stupid "tanks" like that guy pulling all the map <,< (or even more than 1 group of mobs!)

    ---------> its DUUUUUUUUUUUUUTY FINDER! You meet RAAAAAANDOM people! <------

    Not every1 like those respectless so called "Speed" runs!
    On behalf of every tank in the game, we apologise for disturbing your afk while healing time. We understand that you want to afk while healing and it's shame on us to ever try make you actually actively involved in the dungeon.
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