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    ExKage's Avatar
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    Heixin Xiaoshuita
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Now, there's two things. First, if a tank is going to do "big" pulls, they need to make sure it's ok with the group. Check with the healer etc. If the tank cannot properly gauge how well a group may function for pulls after 1-2... well they're not... that good. I typically err on the side of caution and grab just a group or more. If the healer wants to do more I'll go ahead and grab more depending on what the next groups are like etc.

    Second, tanks need to make sure their groups are with them. Especially healers. If the healer is lagging for whatever reason behind (check their mp, ask if they're busy, perhaps they need to get a replacement if the group needs to stop after every pull because of x y or z), a tank shouldn't be charging ahead and the healer's not with them. You're dead without a healer.


    Now about heals, I obviously don't know exactly how you healed but did you get to put the other cooldowns to use even though Benediction was not up? Divine Seal, Presence, Regen, Swiftcast heals? The tank was dumb to leave without Protect and then to plop themselves into the spot to get vulnerability...? Come on. Typically a big pull will have the tank pop a minor cooldown or two (depending on how much they're running) while the healer sprints, when the tank stops they pop a bigger cooldown (some PLD will pop Hallowed so you can start healing big time without worrying they're dead before you cast). There's no point to a holy stun if the tank is gonna die before a heal can help. If a healer tries to pop a heal at the tank, a stray mob may come at the healer's face as the tank won't always be able to flash every single mob before the stop.
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    Last edited by ExKage; 10-15-2015 at 10:07 PM.

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    VirusChris's Avatar
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    Chris Corona
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ExKage View Post
    First, do edit your post. The forums do not allow call outs of any nature.
    Ah, sorry I wasn't aware. Fix'd that now.

    Quote Originally Posted by ExKage View Post
    Now about heals, I obviously don't know exactly how you healed but did you get to put the other cooldowns to use even though Benediction was not up? Divine Seal, Presence, Regen, Swiftcast heals? The tank was dumb to leave without Protect and then to plop themselves into the spot to get vulnerability...? Come on. Typically a big pull will have the tank pop a minor cooldown or two (depending on how much they're running) while the healer sprints, when the tank stops they pop a bigger cooldown (some PLD will pop Hallowed so you can start healing big time without worrying they're dead before you cast). There's no point to a holy stun if the tank is gonna die before a heal can help. If a healer tries to pop a heal at the tank, a stray mob may come at the healer's face as the tank won't always be able to flash every single mob before the stop.
    Like I said I switched from Botanist while I was out gathering so not instant skills via the Sanctuary Resting spots so my cooldowns reset. I only had my Heals, Protect, Stoneskin, Divine Seal, and Regen up. Sorry I don't finally remember but I did cast Regen on the Tank but it wasn't doing any good.

    I was so concern with healing I didn't pop in the Divine Heal to buff my Heals a bit. Plus my TP was barely at 300 TP when we started and the Tank ran off and I too worried when I saw the big pulls the she was doing that it slipped my mind to use Sprint even for like 10 seconds of running. The Tank had Protect on herself before we entered the dungeon or casted it herself while she was in the dungeon but was the only one. Forgot who was with us as DPS so I can't comment on them, though they were getting some hits on them and I took a few myself from a stray mob.

    You would think after the first wipe take it easy... nope ran off up ahead.

    Honestly that's the first time I've EVER came across a Tank like this, most of the time I usually find very friendly and well-paced Tanks in Roulette. Sometimes they do a big pull but are nice enough to wait for me to cast Protect and SS and keep close to the party even when they don't say anything about big pull runs. I'm OK with this, not what I encountered this morning.
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