Confusion over MP regeneration

[Cullen]

Hi fellas, I apologize in advance for making this topic which I am sure has been covered already--however, I just wanted a little clarification on MP regeneration since the update. I noticed while standing around in Ul'dah this morning that I was able to regen MP while running around. I thought I had read in the patch notes that one could do so only when standing still, and not incurring enmity, is that correct?

I did notice that the rate at which I recovered MP was 7mp/tic while moving, and that standing still increased the rate exponentially (much like in XI, ergo "the norm").

So, if anyone could shine a little light on this for me, I would appreciate it very much. I'm sure it's just an oversight on my part.

Thanks!

[Answa]

I've noticed the same thing. I also know it was intended for you to not regen MP while your hate bar being red on any mob. But, going more deeply, if you have a DOT effect inflicted upon you, you also don't regen MP. Moreover, during the Ifrit fight, I would randomly not regen MP at all while standing around looking at my party get pummelled to death because my MP would just stay at, say, 9.

[Catapult]

But, going more deeply, if you have a DOT effect on, you also don't regen MP.

THAT is very helpful information. Thank you!

[Jinko]

I've noticed the same thing. I also know it was intended for you to not regen MP while your hate bar being hate on any mob. But, going more deeply, if you have a DOT effect on, you also don't regen MP. Moreover, during the Ifrit fight, I would randomly not regen MP at all while standing around looking at my party get pummelled to death because my MP would just stay at, say, 9.

I have had this same problem and the only way I could get MP to return was sitting down during the fight(dumb I know right), I think there is a bug that is causing mana to stop regenerating.

I made a thread about it Here

[Dallie]

I've noticed the same thing. I also know it was intended for you to not regen MP while your hate bar being hate on any mob. But, going more deeply, if you have a DOT effect on, you also don't regen MP. Moreover, during the Ifrit fight, I would randomly not regen MP at all while standing around looking at my party get pummelled to death because my MP would just stay at, say, 9.

I'm guessing this was after you stopped participating, but hadn't died yet to reset hate? So if any actions you'd taken generated enmity, you're still considered in the fight, no?

[Jinko]

I'm guessing this was after you stopped participating, but hadn't died yet to reset hate? So if any actions you'd taken generated enmity, you're still considered in the fight, no?

I died and was raised and the problem still remained, FWIW my mana problems didn't happen until I got hit by Ifrits charge attack, both time.

The way the patch notes worded it, was that your mana would stop regenerating when incurring hate, which means everytime you cast a spell, it shouldn't be a persistant thing otherwise you are screwed the moment you cast a spell.

[Dallie]

I died and was raised and the problem still occured, FWIW my mana problems didn't happen until I got hit by Ifrits charge attack, both time.

That is odd...i'd wager that everyone's speculation it's a bug is spot on then.

[Catapult]

You're in a party that is engaged with Ifrit.

By taking damage from Ifrit, you could be considered now involved in that engagement (he knows you exist...).

Does such a possibility hold water?


On the side - what would happen if you broke party after arriving in the bowl but before engaging?

[viion]

It does say enmity is addative now, so instead of being a threshold anything you do just adds on enmity, and it keeps growing. So yes it seems the moment you do anything (inc getting hit) you have some fort of enmity. If you died and got back up and a dot was on the dot would be dealing damage from you so the enmity would immediately go back onto you.

[Dallie]

It does say enmity is addative now, so instead of being a threshold anything you do just adds on enmity, and it keeps growing. So yes it seems the moment you do anything (inc getting hit) you have some fort of enmity. If you died and got back up and a dot was on the dot would be dealing damage from you so the enmity would immediately go back onto you.

Having a DoT up while dead, and then raising up and having said DoT makes sense; however, I counter with the fact that on Ifrit, most DoTs wouldn't last long enough to go through that entire process. Consider that your entire party is scrambling around and *might* get a chance to raise a couple of minutes after you're already dead.

Like I said, it's reasonable, but unlikely that's what is happening.