Can we have relevant loot drops from Ex Primals?

[Mature]

I always remember the days when people used to run garuda ex titan ex ifrit ex mog ex like non stop to get high level accessories that. So far I feel that we getting nothing like that right now. We don't need to do ravana and bishmark ex cause their loots are dated with something you can just buy. In my server I don't see the excitement of doing primals anymore. Never mind wasting your time doing Odin for a mediocre drop.

I personally feel that HW is lacking something. Not only good loot from primals but something else.the expansion feels empty. Can't explain it properly but I hope you get what I mean.

Just sharing

[Alahra]

I look back on 2.1 as the golden age for EX Primals, really. While the fights were tough, they were relevant for a long time because they offered meaningful rewards. EX Primals haven't really been like that since, and I've consequently run most of them far less than I ever touched the original three. While Ravana EX is currently still somewhat relevant (for gearing alternate jobs), Bismarck EX was irrelevant almost from the day it was released, much like Ramuh EX was.

[MihaelB]

I feel they're relevant enough for the purposes they served and still serve. There are various reasons to run them such as glamours, money, ponies & experience of doing them as a group just like most dungeons which may feel irrelevant.

[Fynlar]

I look back on 2.1 as the golden age for EX Primals, really. While the fights were tough, they were relevant for a long time because they offered meaningful rewards.

To be honest, Garuda was the only one with a meaningful reward because unless you could do coil it was the only way you were getting a second i90 ring.

I never felt compelled to farm Titan/Ifrit for anything other than the pony because you could just grab myth accessories and call it a day.

[Iromi]

I agree with you OP. This game is in dire need of having relevant drops come from primals and such.

[Alahra]

To be honest, Garuda was the only one with a meaningful reward because unless you could do coil it was the only way you were getting a second i90 ring.

I never felt compelled to farm Titan/Ifrit for anything other than the pony because you could just grab myth accessories and call it a day.

The accessories from Titan/Ifrit were BiS for a handful of classes. You're also forgetting the Primal Focus quest, which offered i90 weapons once per week.

[FeliAiko]

Those 3 Primals had the advantage of competing with gear at the same ilvl so was closer to horizontal progression during that era. The others had the disadvantage of their drops being lower than those you could just buy from tomes on patch launch.

Bismark dropping i175 while you could get i180 from farming law and hunts was a poor move. Maybe they could've brought the 'Primal Focus' quest back exclusively for those two fights, so at least that way you'd get people running Bismark more than once.

[Fynlar]

The accessories from Titan/Ifrit were BiS for a handful of classes. You're also forgetting the Primal Focus quest, which offered i90 weapons once per week.

Meh, i90 is i90 to me

As for the weapons, relic zeniths were a whole helluva lot easier to get and were shinier. The only remotely difficult part was getting the Titan HM win, and if you had trouble with that back then you were likely not even thinking about getting a win on EX primals yet.

[Alahra]

Bismark dropping i175 while you could get i180 from farming law and hunts was a poor move. Maybe they could've brought the 'Primal Focus' quest back exclusively for those two fights, so at least that way you'd get people running Bismark more than once.

Something like that would have been nice, yes. To be honest though, I only focus on gearing a single class most of the time, so even Ravana's not particularly important to me because it drops i190 weapons and we have access to i200 from Esoterics. It would be nice if they'd go back to a two-pronged reward structure (weapons and accessories, in some fashion, like the original EXes had and Ramuh EX had as well--though Ramuh EX's loot was lackluster until they buffed the accessories).

As for the weapons, relic zeniths were a whole helluva lot easier to get and were shinier. The only remotely difficult part was getting the Titan HM win, and if you had trouble with that back then you were likely not even thinking about getting a win on EX primals yet.

Zenith was certainly easier to get, but they were also time-gated as you needed the 900 Mythology for the Thavnairian Mists. As such, for those players that could regularly clear them, Primal Focus was a great way to get a solid weapon for alternate jobs. While they probably wouldn't introduce a quest that generous anymore, needing to clear 3-4 weeks of EX primals (so 9-12 tokens instead of just 3) would be a decent comparison in the current state of the game.

[Valkyrie-Amber]

would be nice for a ex drop exchange say win 3-5 weps from that ex trade for pony.