"Who...what are you?"

[Morningstar1337]

Of course, people still refer to us as the WoL, keep seeing us through that prism (not sure that can be said in english, so sorry if it sounds weird to you x)

It can, but I think "lens" is the term you were looking for

In any case, it seems that your devil's advocacy seems to keep in mind the shades of grey in XII's conflict (Gods being evils, shades of grey all around), the thing is Despite that and certain mobs designs coming from XII the two settings are different, maybe Yoshida will take the story into a simialr direction to XII or he may keep things like in the early titles, with the heroes being ambiguously heroic in service to the (well A) crystal. (Come to think of it, didn;t someone mentioned that Yoshi loved A Song of Ice and Fire?)

I should also mention that the primals and beastmen seem to think that the Characters had became tempered by Hydaelyn, and as Final Coil shows, being a primal would not protect you from tempering. With that in mind

I'm not gonna take sides in your debates so I'll just leave by reminding you that more often or not History is Written by the Winners, a fact that should had been apparent since the Aery