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    CyrilLucifer's Avatar
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    Well, if we're getting into alignments. . .
    I feel like the game is pushing more Lawful Neutral than Chaotic Good, which also falls in line with Thordan's statement, because Lawful Neutral can be scary. We've shown time and time again that we don't do what we do because we're fighting for, say, the freedom of the beastmen from tempering, but because we believe we're fighting for a way things "should" be. And we do so by submitting to the will of the Goddess who, if Ifrit is not wrong, has tempered us and we don't really have a choice about it.

    Even the Dark Knight quest falls back on this. There's a bit of chaos in there, but it submits to the law in the end.

    Purely from the actions of the character and no RPing standpoint, I can't see the WoL falling anywhere near Chaotic Good. That would require rejecting Hydaelyn's orders and going at it on our own. Which, I admit, would be interesting and would be totally okay with. That could be how they neuter our power for another expansion.

    How I see it is with the Blessing we are the enforcers of Hydaelyn's will and protection on, er, the land of Hydaelyn. If we don't do our jobs, we lose Her favor.

    (And my opinion is, if we become strong enough to kill an Ascian without an outside aether source, Elidibus is right: we're too strong. That's just breaking the laws of reality.)
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    Hmm... Please let me know if my memory is failing me, but isn't that just after a moment where he sees you as the image of the warrior of darkness?

    Well... there's a whole lot of implications that could come from that, about duality or otherwise.

    However, as this is an FF game... despite how they play with hooks & suggestions at times, I am sure the WoL will triumph over darkness as a reasonably traditional hero.
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    I immagen after losing Hauchefaunt, Ysale, almost losing Y'shtola, and the fact that most of the scions are still MIA probably had good old Magnus at the boiling point.

    Add that to all the dark, savage, and arcane powers he's mastered along side the eye of the Dragoon, not to mention Blessing of Light 2.0, and I'm sure the pure hate Magnus was feeling for Tborden, the Knights, and the Ascians gave him quite a "God of Death" vibe when Tborden saw the inner Darkness I was hiding.
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    Trpimir Ratyasch
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    While it's hard to say exactly what Thordan VII saw when looking at you in his final moments, I get the feeling 3.1 will expand or clarify just a bit. It's titled As Goes Light, So Goes Darkness, so I'm betting the Warrior of Darkness will step onto the stage and get some depth into the story.

    Anyway, while I don't RP I'd like to think the Warrior of Light (Temulun) looked down in Thordan in his final moments with a mixture of pity and contempt. We delivered his nation from Nidhogg's eternal torment, but he was too power-hungry to leave it be, and so we cut him down. Such a foolish, senseless waste.
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    "There is no hope in stubbornly clinging to the past. It is our duty to face the future and march onward, not retreat inward." -Sovetsky Soyuz, Azur Lane: Snowrealm Peregrination

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    Meo (my WoL) wasn't shaken at all, mainly because she never was a "hero" to begin with. She does things because she finds them interesting or because they help someone she cares about, not because she believes in a higher cause.
    Naturally, that also means that she has no worries about what she might turn into or the implications of such immense power in one single human being

    I'd really like to know what Thordan said in Japanese and French, because in German he just told me I was foolish, no "who/what are you" moment at all. I wonder if it was just something the English translators did to make it more obvious that Thordan was shocked how powerful we had become and that we seemingly (from his perspective) had no concience about how to use that power "the right way".
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    Aieee! Now I have to think about the other language localizations. Anyone got them for this line?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Aieee! Now I have to think about the other language localizations. Anyone got them for this line?
    Chances are it'd be Anonymoose, Enkidoh, or maybe the equivalent loremasters in the German, French and Japanese boards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    Chances are it'd be Anonymoose, Enkidoh, or maybe the equivalent loremasters in the German, French and Japanese boards
    Haha, it definitely would not be me, given the fact I can only speak and read in English! Any info I post taken from another language is always translated by someone else that I just repost (with full credit of course). I think Catapult and Moose are the ones to talk to about getting info from the other language versions of the game, as my understanding of German, French and Japanese is next to nil I'm afraid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Aieee! Now I have to think about the other language localizations. Anyone got them for this line?
    Sorry about that..xD
    English: "You! Who..what are you?"
    German: "What a fool you are!" (translated)
    French: "But what kind of human/person are you, then?" (translated)
    Japanese: No idea I'd like to know, though!

    Having seen 3 of the 4 languages now, my theory is that basically he is questioning us how we can be considered a WoL instead of a WoD after what we did. Because right before his Famous Last Words, he talks about how we basically didn't give a shit about thousands of lives just to achieve something we consider "right". And from his perspective, that totally makes sense
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    Sorry about that..xD
    English: "You! Who..what are you?"
    German: "What a fool you are!" (translated)
    French: "But what kind of human/person are you, then?" (translated)
    Japanese: No idea I'd like to know, though!

    Having seen 3 of the 4 languages now, my theory is that basically he is questioning us how we can be considered a WoL instead of a WoD after what we did. Because right before his Famous Last Words, he talks about how we basically didn't give a shit about thousands of lives just to achieve something we consider "right". And from his perspective, that totally makes sense
    貴様はいったい何者なのだ
    more less the same at who the XXXX are you
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