gender equality and social disorder

[Ashkendor]

Yep. I'm tired of seeing our two glamour options be "female" and "unisex". :/

[Yamimarik]

Just a heads up, we've had quite the discussion on this very matter at hand over at this thread in quite a huge debate
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...male-%28art%29
Unfortunately there has been no response from a Mod or Dev on the subject at all.

[RubyCirha]

Just a heads up, we've had quite the discussion on this very matter at hand over at this thread in quite a huge debate
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...male-%28art%29
Unfortunately there has been no response from a Mod or Dev on the subject at all.

thank you for your post and leting us see this thread i think we should all send a suggestion to se and home that they see there are enough people that give a damn and that they need to fix this

[WinterLuna]

Genuine question, not against gender equality in any way, but wouldn't you rather SE create a new male outfit for every female one instead of just allowing the males to wear dresses etc?

Again, I have no problem if males want to wear dresses, just a thought I had which would make it fair on everyone.

[Noxifer]

Genuine question, not against gender equality in any way, but wouldn't you rather SE create a new male outfit for every female one instead of just allowing the males to wear dresses etc?

Again, I have no problem if males want to wear dresses, just a thought I had which would make it fair on everyone.

In a way, that'd be fine. But... then there's the matter of pretty much every outfit so far that they intended to be male-only. Where one person or another has gone, "Wait, wouldn't this look cute on a female character? Let's make it unisex instead!" And I admit there's this worry in the back of my head telling me that if they start to make something and have the 'no, the gear has to be male-only, not unisex' order... that if they make a design and realize it'd look cute on females, they'll put that design aside and make a less appealing design for the current task. And while this may be just paranoia, I'd rather not risk having sub-standard male apparel. Just like how 'formal wear' for a man is a lot more limiting than 'formal wear' for a woman.

So for me, I'd rather have the current female-only gear made unisex. With a few modifications if worn by a male, similar to how the current unisex outfits add bras (for example) to the female-worn variety. So maybe the thavnairian 'dress' on a male character wouldn't have a bra on the top half, but just the jewelry bits, like one suggestion or other in the thread (linked above) with example images.

Personally, I wouldn't mind the outfits looking slightly different depending on which gender wore them (similar to the Eerie Skirt, Soldiery Tomestone Caster fishnets/tights or the bliauds and coatees), as long as male and female characters had the same number of available glamour sets. It's the constant "women get two, men get one" release pattern that has me annoyed. And while they have promised a more equal release pattern, I'd also like them to go back and fix the already-existing inbalance. ^^

[Eul]

Thavnarian set and bunny ears is the reason I have issues about gender balance in this game while female can wear any males glamour gear... :/

[Alex_Lenderson]

I don't get the issue. Male/Female can be changed easily enough in game so any transpeople wouldn't need to cross dress... they just change gender?? Maybe I'm missing something.

[Colorful]

I don't get the issue. Male/Female can be changed easily enough in game so any transpeople wouldn't need to cross dress... they just change gender?? Maybe I'm missing something.

You have a point, don't trans people crossdress because they believe they fit with the other gender better? I could be entirely wrong, so please do correct me if I am. Having your gender changed irl is both a huge hassle, legally, mentally, and cost wise too, whereas in FFXIV you could roll that gender to begin with, or change for $10. I've seen people talk about it like "I want my Roe to look like a sexy stripper wearing the Thav set" which is... uhm, whatever? I mean, if you're into that there's plenty of material outside of FFXIV for it. This isn't a game that is aiming to appease to those needs.

But I do think they should introduce many more male exclusive sets to bring them to an even level of females, even if it means a few patches where female characters get nothing for Gold Saucer rewards and the like.

[AskaRay]

I don't get the issue. Male/Female can be changed easily enough in game so any transpeople wouldn't need to cross dress... they just change gender?? Maybe I'm missing something.

Well I can't say anything for trans people but
That doesn't mean with a male character I don't want to dress up in a dress or skirt or whatever.. or even seemingly genderless items like the Bunny Crown yes I'm still mad about that so

whatever.

Also just like some people find super manly muscley men attractive, maybe others find extremely androgynous people attractive so....no it's not as simple as "changing gender"

[Alex_Lenderson]

Well I can't say anything for trans people but
That doesn't mean with a male character I don't want to dress up in a dress or skirt or whatever.. or even seemingly genderless items like the Bunny Crown yes I'm still mad about that so

whatever.

Also just like some people find super manly muscley men attractive, maybe others find extremely androgynous people attractive so....no it's not as simple as "changing gender"

The game really can't be all things to all people. Hell summoners have a much better argument regarding their EGI.