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    Player Nomad-phx's Avatar
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    Let Rhonda Rousy fight a man, the equality will come soon after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    I find it funny that I find a post like this in every thread basically. Its like everything's been discussed and the world is just jaded, huh? lol
    But just look at how much he/she was contributing the the conversation! GOSH! /s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Because males crossdressing isn't the standard in real life, nor is it going to be a thing anytime soon. It's heavily looked down upon in a lot of places. It's considered to be a joke, like one would dare their friend to go out in public wearing a dress to embarrass them and take photos. That's likely why.

    Also what does this have to do with a social disorder?
    1word, kabuki
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    Stemming from the notion that 'female' is weaker than 'male' and that the male is something to strive for, of course, but still gender discrimination.
    Stemming from the notion that men need to be strictly reigned in (very little freedom of expression) or they are worthless as humans, while women can be free and still have worth. This doesn't imply male superiority.

    Edit: I really don't get how people can say that women having more options for clothing is actual oppression of women, or a sign society is on the side of men. Only in bizarro world.
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    Last edited by SchalaZeal; 10-14-2015 at 02:39 AM.

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    The way I always view it, clothing is not sex locked, in any way of life. As I recall even high heels were worn by men years ago which has lately shifted in social acceptance to just women. Some articles carry that but that doesn't mean it should stop you from wearing it. If you want to wear a dress, you should feel free to but just know society considers that ill to the normal standard and will gaze. If you wanna run around in a dress in this game, I say we should be allowed. It is about having fun and besides if your worried about gender or other such issues, well....the same sex marriage (which I applaud) you kinda ruined yourself there.
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    Male characters have male only outfits as well, ones that can't really be allowed for females because they involve being shirtless.

    This seems like a tumblr post almost..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wobble View Post
    1word, kabuki
    Eh..Kabuki is a play/drama, and done during the play..people don't walk around like that, go to school or work like that (I mean as in, someones job who isn't a Kabuki actor) unless I am wrong and Japanese business men go to the office in full Kabuki attire?

    That is like saying just because something is done in the movies it's accepted by most people everywhere and is a norm.

    Personally I have no problem with anyone wearing whatever they want, it's their life...their body. Doesn't bother me in the slightest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Male characters have male only outfits as well, ones that can't really be allowed for females because they involve being shirtless.

    This seems like a tumblr post almost..
    I think the point people are trying to make is that, if you sum up all the individual articles of clothing that have "♀ only" on them and sum up all the individual articles of clothing that have "♂ only" on them, you'll find the results highly skewed towards the female gender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wobble View Post
    1word, kabuki
    Because woman's kabuki got banned in year 1629. It was seen as too erotic.


    The shogunate was never partial to kabuki and all the mischief it brought, particularly the variety of the social classes which mixed at kabuki performances. Women’s kabuki, called onna-kabuki, was banned in 1629 for being too erotic.[5] Following onna-kabuki, young boys performed in wakashū-kabuki, but since they too were eligible for prostitution, the shogun government soon banned wakashū-kabuki as well.[5] Kabuki switched to adult male actors, called yaro-kabuki, in the mid-1600s.[6] Male actors played both female and male characters. The theatre remained popular, and remained a focus of urban lifestyle until modern times. Although kabuki was performed all over ukiyo and other portions for the country, the Nakamura-za, Ichimura-za and Kawarazaki-za theatres became the top theatres in ukiyo, where some of the most successful kabuki performances were and still are held.[3]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabuki
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    If they made a few adjustments for the lack of boobs on the character models, guys could wear whatever they want.
    I mean like, girls wearing the guys clothes is easier to program to the character models. They just stretch the shirt model over the girl wireframe. I imagine this is easier than doing the opposite to the guys wireframe.

    I kind of think that since the guy's character models don't have boobs, it makes it harder to "fit" the dress on them.
    I'm sure it could be done, but yea, probably the programmers just looking to save time. It's easier to fit the guys clothing on the girls cause it can just stretch.

    So, probably no prejudice going on here. Just them trying to save time so they can focus on other stuff. If people wanted them to do it a lot, they probably would.

    If someone knows more about programming and wants to add more or even tell me if I'm wrong, please do.
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