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  1. #81
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    Zarzak Tigerspirit
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    1st of all OP.. Yea I agree we have had the same MSQ roulette since day 1 it needs some new shit anyway. I'd bug your friends until they help you though.


    Now on to one of the best quotes I've seen in recent years regarding MMOs


    Quote Originally Posted by kazeandi View Post
    While I do have a FC and received no help with this problem, I'd like to object to the "that's the way a MMORPG is being played".

    No. This is not true for FFXIV, where most content is solo and you get your group action from a queuing tool that works cross-server. This is not like older MMOs, where servers developed real communities. It's more like MacDonald's Drive-Thru, where you queue up, do your run, then never meet those people again.

    ^^^ THIS IS SO ACCURATE. WoW brought about the age where MMORPGs are basically just ORPGs. They literally do everything they can to make it where you can get through the whole game without ever speaking to another human being and its damn sad. There are plenty of single player games already but instead of playing those people came around and destroyed what MMOs were about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    Newer players to MMO games will likely draw from their experiences playing FPS games, GTA, Dragon Age, Skyrim, etc.. and they will evaluate a MMO based on that criteria. But other online games (and offline RPGs) are designed to be picked up, played for maybe 5 months and then abandoned for when the next big game comes along. A Veteran MMO gamer knows that the experience of the game is stretched out over years, and if crafted properly, it leaves players with some of the best gaming experiences to be found anywhere.
    Quote Originally Posted by kazeandi View Post
    This is the problem most content is solo and you get your group action from a cross-server queueing tool. This is not like older MMOs where servers developed real communities. It's more like MacDonald's Drive-Thru, where you queue up, do your run, then never meet those people again.

  2. #82
    Player Iagainsti's Avatar
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    Iagainsti Kilamanjiro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalsam View Post
    Not everyone has the same skill level. And running with those you know typically goes better due to better communication/synergy :P
    I wasn't trying to denigrate anyone and their individual skill level, I'm more or less covering that ARF and it's mechanics are not as difficult as say, Castrum at 2.0 launch; even that Duty was simple enough to clear once ppl realized to use the cannons on all available trash.
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  3. #83
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Isnt ARF in the high level roulette?
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    C'alih Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    Isnt ARF in the high level roulette?
    No, the high level roulette is only level 50 duties -- if it contained level 60 duties, no pre-HW person could do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarzak View Post
    1st of all OP.. Yea I agree we have had the same MSQ roulette since day 1 it needs some new shit anyway. I'd bug your friends until they help you though.


    Now on to one of the best quotes I've seen in recent years regarding MMOs





    ^^^ THIS IS SO ACCURATE. WoW brought about the age where MMORPGs are basically just ORPGs. They literally do everything they can to make it where you can get through the whole game without ever speaking to another human being and its damn sad. There are plenty of single player games already but instead of playing those people came around and destroyed what MMOs were about.

    I hate the duty finder a lot because of this. And I'm not even that social. And on top of that the devs make many things too easy because of it Alexander story mode why is it easier to clear this at level 60 yet people seem wipe to Bismark normal more than A4?

    But to OP's post no that dungeon should not be removed from main story but it should have been added to expert roulette. Problem of doing that thou is there's no chests for gear there.
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    Last edited by Dererk; 10-14-2015 at 11:32 PM.

  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dererk View Post
    I hate the duty finder a lot because of this. And I'm not even that social. And on top of that the devs make many things too easy because of it Alexander story mode why is it easier to clear this at level 60 yet people seem wipe to Bismark normal more than A4?

    But to OP's post no that dungeon should not be removed from main story but it should have been added to expert roulette. Problem of doing that thou is there's no chests for gear there.
    eh it is a main story dungeon.. we have this whole main story queue that already doesn't drop loot.... and hasn't seen new content added since the roulettes came into being. Personally I'd welcome a change from Cm/Prae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    Newer players to MMO games will likely draw from their experiences playing FPS games, GTA, Dragon Age, Skyrim, etc.. and they will evaluate a MMO based on that criteria. But other online games (and offline RPGs) are designed to be picked up, played for maybe 5 months and then abandoned for when the next big game comes along. A Veteran MMO gamer knows that the experience of the game is stretched out over years, and if crafted properly, it leaves players with some of the best gaming experiences to be found anywhere.
    Quote Originally Posted by kazeandi View Post
    This is the problem most content is solo and you get your group action from a cross-server queueing tool. This is not like older MMOs where servers developed real communities. It's more like MacDonald's Drive-Thru, where you queue up, do your run, then never meet those people again.

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