Remove ARF from the MSQ

[Ashkendor]

That sucks. I kinda wish you were on my server (or at least my data center). I know I queued for quite a few of these early on when I still needed Law because it was an easy, almost-guaranteed way to get a Law bonus. I've also jumped into a couple of PF's that I've seen for people that are running it and just need a tank or healer because the dungeon's fun. This really needs to be put into one of the roulettes so that people can have a viable way to get through it without /shouting their faces off in Idyllshire.

I'll have to remember to hit up the queue for this again and help some new people out. ^^

[Eidolon]

In my opinion?

They should have had this one in the Expert roulette with the other two. It would have solved the initial problem of "Wtf only two Expert dungouns dear god this is so tedious why is this so aweful to cap eso weekly" by giving us a third dungoun.
>Move the boss from the end of it to his own Trial roulette. Same issue in this dungoun as with ultima, that would balance it out.

Move the dungoun to MSQ Roulette or High Level Roulette after we get the next set. I think that'd make everyone pretty happy.

[Noxifer]

My guess is...

Once 3.1 comes out, they'll have new Ex Roulette dungeons. With 2.x, the previous Ex Roulette dungeons got added to the new High Level Roulette.
Since High Level Roulette requires completion of all dungeons in it before opening the roulette up, the level 60 dungeons can't be added to the old High Level Roulette, since it'd lock out all the non-HW (and non-60) people from doing it.
Most likely, they'll make a new level 60 "high level roulette", and chances are they'll stick ARF into that as well as Neverbleep and Fractal.

solved the initial problem of "Wtf only two Expert dungouns dear god this is so tedious why is this so aweful to cap eso weekly" by giving us a third dungoun.

Well, yes. Instead you'd have the problem of "Wtf, why doesn't ARF reward i160 gear? The other two dungeons do, why doesn't this one? D:"

As for myself... I complained like heck about the lack of loot when I ran it the first time... then quickly started accusing all those imperials of STEALING IT! D:

[Arkenne]

Isn't there only one cutscene at the end? The party is blocked until everyone watches it too if I remembering it properly. I could be wrong, I haven't done it in awhile.

Hrm... haven't done it in a while myself so I can't recall properly but I believe the mid boss had a cutscene too??
What I do remember is that the last boss has more than 1, there are at least 2, and nope, they dont lock you out of the fight for those that are not in the cutscene. They aren't exactly short either (as in 10 seconds or so cutscene), they last a minute.

For some its "oh whats to wait a single minute?" whilst for others would be "oh damn I have to wait one minute?! again?!!"
At least the dungeon is 4-man and it shouldn't suffer of the same magnitude of problems as, say, Preatorium.

Just to picture it for an example, imagine Neverreap last boss had a 1 minute cutscene entry and every time you got a newbie in the party they ended up watching it. If they are a DPS I can totally see them being left outside of the fight altogether :/ (maybe not always, but would definitely happen).

[Averax]

Why on Earth would anybody do anything but ARF if it gave 100 Esoterics a day? Seems like a silly suggestion.

Well, a random daily rewards 35 + 40 for the actual duty, so that's 75 per day. ARF is nearly twice as long as those other duties, so i think a daily 100 seems pretty fair. Maybe drop it to 50 after the first run.

Also, it yields no loot, so it's a decent compensation

[Eidolon]

Well, yes. Instead you'd have the problem of "Wtf, why doesn't ARF reward i160 gear? The other two dungeons do, why doesn't this one? D:"

As for myself... I complained like heck about the lack of loot when I ran it the first time... then quickly started accusing all those imperials of STEALING IT! D:

I don't know anyone that will complain about not getting the bloat of i160, but that's easily solved by putting i160 in fractal (An idea that I'm surprised they passed up, to be honest)

[Fynlar]

Look at the dungeon info, ARF requires an ilvl of 142 while expert dungeons currently require 145.

I know that, that's why I said they could have easily upped this to 145 if that was their reason for not putting it on the roulette.

Having 1 story dungeon + 2 side dungeons on the EX roulette had become the standard practice anyway since... 2.4, was it?

Then you would see people complaining about low geared new players in the roulette stoping to watch cutscenes and 'wasting other people's time'.

I don't recall Snowcloak or KotL having this problem. :/

And really, I think Mid had more of a pre-battle cutscene than this place did.

[Iagainsti]

Who wipes in ARF to the point where you abandon? I went in green with 3 fc mates and cleared without a death XD

[Kalsam]

Who wipes in ARF to the point where you abandon? I went in green with 3 fc mates and cleared without a death XD

Not everyone has the same skill level. And running with those you know typically goes better due to better communication/synergy :P

[CrystalRainbow]

Really it just needs to be added to a roulette.

Which I think is just an oversight which will likely be corrected in the next patch.

Quick fix is now that it's not NEW content. Give it 35 Eco and make it Expert.


I remember doing it as a new 60 in i150 gear x 3 players and only was i160ish who had cleared it.. We wiped a few times, finished with under 10 mins lefts. Never been back.