Remove ARF from the MSQ

[Azazua_azura]

isn't ARF the 1 just before the boss fight in Singular? it has no drops or loot pretty much killing spree till you fight the big boss. I'm on Tonberry and on my pervious character (which i had up till 2 weeks ago) could que this. It is and isn't easy if you can tell what is going on in the fights, but a few are so full of effects and aoe it can be hard to tell.

but ermm you do have a poor attitude about ff14 and mmo, and might be reason your not getting help. Maybe try helping others and stead of using them as tools for your clears.

[CGMidlander]

The last time I did ARF was back before Esoterics came out. lol
It didn't last long.

[AsahinaMyLove]

why the final dungeon of HW story is not in the mainstory roulete like both castrum runs are? ._.

Didnt they learn...?

[YuiKitahara]

/pet
SE really needs to make this dungeon more attractive, me too also queued a few days for it =/
You can add me in game if still no pops, I'll be online from like 7pm to 11pm (GMT+8) every day ：) The story there is not bad, don't give it up.

[kazeandi]

But... how? I've done it a few times. (Once story, had one wipe - cleared) Did it 2nd time for Law. Did it 3rd time with a pair of fresh 60 FC members, no wipe. How are you getting constant wipes in this easy dungeon? I know your BLM so its probably the healer/tank fault but wow. What in the world?

People didn't know how to react to the turrets. Killing them takes a few moments for fresh 60ers and in that time, they pack a punch.
You can solve that problem by having the tank stand in line, but.. the tank already took lots of damage, the healer was overwhelmed and the machinist was far away, doing whatever.
Sometimes you have such teams, where nothing works out.

[Ashkendor]

That sucks. I kinda wish you were on my server (or at least my data center). I know I queued for quite a few of these early on when I still needed Law because it was an easy, almost-guaranteed way to get a Law bonus. I've also jumped into a couple of PF's that I've seen for people that are running it and just need a tank or healer because the dungeon's fun. This really needs to be put into one of the roulettes so that people can have a viable way to get through it without /shouting their faces off in Idyllshire.

I'll have to remember to hit up the queue for this again and help some new people out. ^^

[Eidolon]

In my opinion?

They should have had this one in the Expert roulette with the other two. It would have solved the initial problem of "Wtf only two Expert dungouns dear god this is so tedious why is this so aweful to cap eso weekly" by giving us a third dungoun.
>Move the boss from the end of it to his own Trial roulette. Same issue in this dungoun as with ultima, that would balance it out.

Move the dungoun to MSQ Roulette or High Level Roulette after we get the next set. I think that'd make everyone pretty happy.

[Noxifer]

My guess is...

Once 3.1 comes out, they'll have new Ex Roulette dungeons. With 2.x, the previous Ex Roulette dungeons got added to the new High Level Roulette.
Since High Level Roulette requires completion of all dungeons in it before opening the roulette up, the level 60 dungeons can't be added to the old High Level Roulette, since it'd lock out all the non-HW (and non-60) people from doing it.
Most likely, they'll make a new level 60 "high level roulette", and chances are they'll stick ARF into that as well as Neverbleep and Fractal.

solved the initial problem of "Wtf only two Expert dungouns dear god this is so tedious why is this so aweful to cap eso weekly" by giving us a third dungoun.

Well, yes. Instead you'd have the problem of "Wtf, why doesn't ARF reward i160 gear? The other two dungeons do, why doesn't this one? D:"

As for myself... I complained like heck about the lack of loot when I ran it the first time... then quickly started accusing all those imperials of STEALING IT! D:

[Eidolon]

Well, yes. Instead you'd have the problem of "Wtf, why doesn't ARF reward i160 gear? The other two dungeons do, why doesn't this one? D:"

As for myself... I complained like heck about the lack of loot when I ran it the first time... then quickly started accusing all those imperials of STEALING IT! D:

I don't know anyone that will complain about not getting the bloat of i160, but that's easily solved by putting i160 in fractal (An idea that I'm surprised they passed up, to be honest)

[Fynlar]

Look at the dungeon info, ARF requires an ilvl of 142 while expert dungeons currently require 145.

I know that, that's why I said they could have easily upped this to 145 if that was their reason for not putting it on the roulette.

Having 1 story dungeon + 2 side dungeons on the EX roulette had become the standard practice anyway since... 2.4, was it?

Then you would see people complaining about low geared new players in the roulette stoping to watch cutscenes and 'wasting other people's time'.

I don't recall Snowcloak or KotL having this problem. :/

And really, I think Mid had more of a pre-battle cutscene than this place did.