Remove ARF from the MSQ

[Reinha]

It needs to be put in the main scenario roulette asap. This is the situation roulettes were made to prevent in the first place. -_-

Guildhest roulette has 4 mans and an 8 man so it shouldn't be too hard to code MS roulette in the same way. Just bump the reward up a bit for max level characters, lets say 10-30 esoterics.

I'd help you OP but unfortunately I'm not even on the same data center.

[Kalsam]

I'd be in favour of this being added to the High Level, or even Levelling Roulettes. As both are currently the setting to run for Law on a max level character as is, and ARF is something like 100 Laws as is.
But I sadly don't feel it'd fit in with the Main Scenario for one reason; Guildhests.
When you queue for the 8 man and a few of the 4 man Guildhests, it'll always favour the 4 mans first. And while I personally don't mind ARF (Still prefer to run this to others for Law on my alts), there are many out there whom are now accustomed to the speed runs of Prae, Cas and Cape.

@OP: It may sound like people are being a bit rude by suggesting that you find a new FC or use the PF, but they're really not. It's more a case that too many come to the forums to complain about something without trying all their avenues, and this is really frustrating to the regular forum goers. Especially when most try to offer helpful suggestions, and are shot down by the OP's saying things like "But I don't want to do it that way. I want to do it my way. So your way sucks!" in whatever format they choose to say it in.

In this thread alone, even though you didn't ask for it, you have two people willing to help you out. Which is awesome. I'd have offered to help were you on Excalibur. Next time you're having trouble getting a run for something, instead of coming to complain, perhaps come to the forums and ask. Cause as you've just been witness to... people WILL help.

[raela]

I'd be in favour of this being added to the High Level, or even Levelling Roulettes. As both are currently the setting to run for Law on a max level character as is, and ARF is something like 100 Laws as is.
But I sadly don't feel it'd fit in with the Main Scenario for one reason; Guildhests.

I am curious to see how roulettes will change for 3.1. The issue I see with MSQ roulette is it rewards exp and poes, both of which are useless for 60 - so why would people queue? Do people run high for law as well? I've been only seeing people who are leveling (myself included).

When we get new dungeons for ex, where will the current go? Will high just end up amassing tons? Will an eso bonus go to high? Would be nice to put ARF in ex, keep the current two, and add new.. Giving 5 possibilities. Kinda doubt it'll happen though..

[Kalsam]

Do people run high for law as well? I've been only seeing people who are leveling (myself included). -cropped-

I've seen a number of 60's running High Level. And the majority of the time, when I ask, they're either running with someone in the group, or for the 120 Law bonus. When they are running for the Law, I remind them of ARF, which a lot tend to forget about. That's why I think having it in High would be a good idea. But, baring that... the Levelling Roulette's also a good choice, as it's 100 Law on it's own, already.

[Twilite]

I've seen a number of 60's running High Level. And the majority of the time, when I ask, they're either running with someone in the group, or for the 120 Law bonus. When they are running for the Law, I remind them of ARF, which a lot tend to forget about. That's why I think having it in High would be a good idea. But, baring that... the Levelling Roulette's also a good choice, as it's 100 Law on it's own, already.

I run High Level all the time on my BLM(and soon my WHM). For law and fun. Expert however is the one exception. Not running that if I'm capped. Fractal is fine, but I'm not going to take a chance at running Neverreap if I don't need to.

[Twilite]

I did not use enochian on my first run. I used the ARR rotation. I've ran it three times..very hard to get it through DF. The reason being is this dungeon for no reason at all, has NO drops. The sheer length of this dungeon is insulting due to that.

By the way two of the three times were for fun because IT IS fun, are you are missing out if you didn't get to the last "boss". I'm one of those people that queue for stuff people rarely do more than once as I find it fun(Ultimate Weapon HM for example..)

[Lemuria]

This dungeon needs to be added to Expert mode roulette. All Experts before Heavensward had 3 dungeon options, so why the sudden change? Besides which, having it in the 'levelling' roulette would be silly, since it requires level 60 and it's less common for level 60's to run that roulette.

[Arkenne]

There is the sensitive fact that that one dun is Cutscene ridden, tho.

[Colorful]

There is the sensitive fact that that one dun is Cutscene ridden, tho.

Isn't there only one cutscene at the end? The party is blocked until everyone watches it too if I remembering it properly. I could be wrong, I haven't done it in awhile.

They should have added it to the MSQ Roulette from the beginning, I tried doing it earlier due to not doing it in forever, but couldn't find a group in the 50 minutes I was queued for it. That's baffling if you ask me, if I was a new player I'd rather be forced to watch the cutscenes in the inn rather than wait a few hours potentially.

[Kalsam]

Isn't there only one cutscene at the end? The party is blocked until everyone watches it too if I remembering it properly. I could be wrong, I haven't done it in awhile.
They should have added it to the MSQ Roulette from the beginning, I tried doing it earlier due to not doing it in forever, but couldn't find a group in the 50 minutes I was queued for it. That's baffling if you ask me, if I was a new player I'd rather be forced to watch the cutscenes in the inn rather than wait a few hours potentially.

It is, and I personally have no issue with it, as the person watching typically likes to know what to expect. So the cutscene gives me a moment to explain the fight to them.

I already pointed out the issue with it being in MS Roulette, cause even if no one queued currently needed it, ARF would end up being chosen more often than Cas, Prae and Cape for just being a 4 man (Same happens, if you queue for Guildhest... which is the closest equivalent in game atm) and many who run the MS atm are used to the speed run-ability of those three. Having only Poetics as the reward would become a bitter experience for those ending up in ARF all the time, meaning queues for MS roulette would drop... significantly. Not really fixing the problem.

But putting it into High Level (Preferred), or Levelling will work well, as 60's ARE running those for Law for (at least) other classes. And they're already expecting to run a 4 man. *nod nod*