Remove ARF from the MSQ

[Lemuria]

This dungeon needs to be added to Expert mode roulette. All Experts before Heavensward had 3 dungeon options, so why the sudden change? Besides which, having it in the 'levelling' roulette would be silly, since it requires level 60 and it's less common for level 60's to run that roulette.

[Twilite]

I've seen a number of 60's running High Level. And the majority of the time, when I ask, they're either running with someone in the group, or for the 120 Law bonus. When they are running for the Law, I remind them of ARF, which a lot tend to forget about. That's why I think having it in High would be a good idea. But, baring that... the Levelling Roulette's also a good choice, as it's 100 Law on it's own, already.

I run High Level all the time on my BLM(and soon my WHM). For law and fun. Expert however is the one exception. Not running that if I'm capped. Fractal is fine, but I'm not going to take a chance at running Neverreap if I don't need to.

[Arkenne]

There is the sensitive fact that that one dun is Cutscene ridden, tho.

[Galactimus]

While you shouldn't have to, and I agree it should be added to a Roulette, you can pay people gil in Party Finder and you'll have ARF completed in the next 30 minutes. Whether it's AFK airship crafting, Ultros and Typhon, or ARF. A lot of people are happy to end their Idyllshire boredom for 25-50k. A lot of times you'll run into players who were simply happy to assist you and don't want your gil. It's not ideal but it's the easiest way to get things done if your friends network isn't huge.

[Colorful]

There is the sensitive fact that that one dun is Cutscene ridden, tho.

Isn't there only one cutscene at the end? The party is blocked until everyone watches it too if I remembering it properly. I could be wrong, I haven't done it in awhile.

They should have added it to the MSQ Roulette from the beginning, I tried doing it earlier due to not doing it in forever, but couldn't find a group in the 50 minutes I was queued for it. That's baffling if you ask me, if I was a new player I'd rather be forced to watch the cutscenes in the inn rather than wait a few hours potentially.

[Kalsam]

Isn't there only one cutscene at the end? The party is blocked until everyone watches it too if I remembering it properly. I could be wrong, I haven't done it in awhile.
They should have added it to the MSQ Roulette from the beginning, I tried doing it earlier due to not doing it in forever, but couldn't find a group in the 50 minutes I was queued for it. That's baffling if you ask me, if I was a new player I'd rather be forced to watch the cutscenes in the inn rather than wait a few hours potentially.

It is, and I personally have no issue with it, as the person watching typically likes to know what to expect. So the cutscene gives me a moment to explain the fight to them.

I already pointed out the issue with it being in MS Roulette, cause even if no one queued currently needed it, ARF would end up being chosen more often than Cas, Prae and Cape for just being a 4 man (Same happens, if you queue for Guildhest... which is the closest equivalent in game atm) and many who run the MS atm are used to the speed run-ability of those three. Having only Poetics as the reward would become a bitter experience for those ending up in ARF all the time, meaning queues for MS roulette would drop... significantly. Not really fixing the problem.

But putting it into High Level (Preferred), or Levelling will work well, as 60's ARE running those for Law for (at least) other classes. And they're already expecting to run a 4 man. *nod nod*

[Shadowsun]

Hello,

I've been trying to get to do the Aetherochemical Research Facility to end the MSQ, for 3 days now. I got a group the first day, but wipe after wipe led to the group disbanding, since then, no more queue pops for me.

I'm sorry but.. get good?
Did this dungeon when we were all in the minimum required ilevel gear to queue for it and finished it in one go, I don't see how anyone could fail this unless they do it on purpose

[Kalsam]

I'm sorry but.. get good?
Did this dungeon when we were all in the minimum required ilevel gear to queue for it and finished it in one go, I don't see how anyone could fail this unless they do it on purpose

You can't control other players. =\ If they were saying THEY were wiping the group, then this would be a proper statement. But as is, it could have been a troll, a bad tank or a bad healer.
It's now a point in the game where most of those who do try to play their class well are up into Savage. And they're outlining the issue that it's not so much the wiping, but that people aren't really running ARF anymore. Forcing them to be stuck behind a gate into the rest of the content.

[Aethaeryn]

I'm sorry but.. get good?
Did this dungeon when we were all in the minimum required ilevel gear to queue for it and finished it in one go, I don't see how anyone could fail this unless they do it on purpose

No need to be rude about it. It's duty finder. Considering how easy it is to run into people in 190+ average gear that still manage to do less damage than people could do at level 50, this really isn't all that surprising.

BLM changes a lot when you get to 60 too, and I don't think most people want to stop enjoying story to go nuke a dummy for a while right after they hit level 60. At least she was trying to use it, while I regularly run into decently geared black mages that still use the 2.0 rotation.

[Adire]

So apparently this dungeon is not in a roulette at all.

Who thought that was a good idea?