Remove ARF from the MSQ

[kazeandi]

Hello,

I've been trying to get to do the Aetherochemical Research Facility to end the MSQ, for 3 days now. I got a group the first day, but wipe after wipe led to the group disbanding, since then, no more queue pops for me.

The one group I had, I went as BLM, where I truly sucked at keeping up Enochian (as was to be expected with something you get last minute after having leveled with a different rotation), but that didn't wipe us - we all had our problems.

Since then, I've been queuing with my Scholar, but a group doesn't even pop up.
I'm living in Japan and playing on the busiest Japanese server, Tonberry, by the way. Transferring anywhere will probably not help me much.

This dungeon is not in any roulette. Nobody who did it once does it ever again (maybe some people do, for fun, but there's no real reason to do it), so the queues are just dead.

As a result I am now stuck with my char, being Lv 60 SMN/SCH/BLM, locked out from Lv 60 content. I can now basically quit the game, because it's game over for me at this point.
Or level even more classes to 60, where the game just ends without a proper ending.

Please either remove the dungeon from the MSQ and replace it with something else, or put it into the duty roulette, "main scenario" or "expert roulette".

I will level alt classes for now, but I can already see my motivation going down the drain.

[Freyyy]

This dungeon is very essential for the story. Removing it from MSQ would be nonsense. They should just put it in the main scenario roulette.

But I'd like to ask, don't you have some friends in the game to do dungeons with ? Don't you have a free company ? If not, you should meet people, because that's how an MMORPG is played.

[kazeandi]

But I'd like to ask, don't you have some friends in the game to do dungeons with ? Don't you have a free company ? If not, you should meet people, because that's how an MMORPG is played.

While I do have a FC and received no help with this problem, I'd like to object to the "that's the way a MMORPG is being played".

No. This is not true for FFXIV, where most content is solo and you get your group action from a queuing tool that works cross-server. This is not like older MMOs, where servers developed real communities. It's more like MacDonald's Drive-Thru, where you queue up, do your run, then never meet those people again.

[SpookyGhost]

No. This is not true for FFXIV, where most content is solo and you get your group action from a queuing tool that works cross-server. This is not like older MMOs, where servers developed real communities. It's more like MacDonald's Drive-Thru, where you queue up, do your run, then never meet those people again.

Again, DF is a convenience tool, not the only tool. XIV does condition you to rely on the DF far too often, so this mentality isn't unfounded - but given that you've tried for 3 days to get this done through DF did you never think to try PF once? Surely after the 2nd day you'd realize that was at least worth a shot more than sitting in DF for an eternity.

[Freyyy]

No. This is not true for FFXIV, where most content is solo and you get your group action from a queuing tool that works cross-server. This is not like older MMOs, where servers developed real communities. It's more like MacDonald's Drive-Thru, where you queue up, do your run, then never meet those people again.

It's how YOU play it but it's far from being the best way. Trust me. You can find people who will be glad to do dungeons and content with you and you will have a better time playing the game.

[Jynx]

While I do have a FC and received no help with this problem.

Sounds like a real good guy FC. Maybe you should rethink if the company alligns with your interests as a player.

[Canadane]

While I do have a FC and received no help with this problem, I'd like to object to the "that's the way a MMORPG is being played".

No. This is not true for FFXIV, where most content is solo and you get your group action from a queuing tool that works cross-server. This is not like older MMOs, where servers developed real communities. It's more like MacDonald's Drive-Thru, where you queue up, do your run, then never meet those people again.

Yes but if the drive-thru is closed, you do into the store and order from the counter.
And if for some reason that's not accessible, you find your food elsewhere.

The McDrive-thru isn't the only option for you to eat. Likewise, you can find groups elsewhere in this MMO. DF is only one tool to use.

That all being said, the instance should really be added to a roulette. The Main Scenario one, perhaps.

[Gilthas]

No. This is not true for FFXIV, where most content is solo and you get your group action from a queuing tool that works cross-server. This is not like older MMOs, where servers developed real communities. It's more like MacDonald's Drive-Thru, where you queue up, do your run, then never meet those people again.

Anyone here actually tried to do group content in FFXI that had no rewards? So much for older MMOs developing real communities...

[Zarzak]

1st of all OP.. Yea I agree we have had the same MSQ roulette since day 1 it needs some new shit anyway. I'd bug your friends until they help you though.


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While I do have a FC and received no help with this problem, I'd like to object to the "that's the way a MMORPG is being played".

No. This is not true for FFXIV, where most content is solo and you get your group action from a queuing tool that works cross-server. This is not like older MMOs, where servers developed real communities. It's more like MacDonald's Drive-Thru, where you queue up, do your run, then never meet those people again.

^^^ THIS IS SO ACCURATE. WoW brought about the age where MMORPGs are basically just ORPGs. They literally do everything they can to make it where you can get through the whole game without ever speaking to another human being and its damn sad. There are plenty of single player games already but instead of playing those people came around and destroyed what MMOs were about.

[Dererk]

1st of all OP.. Yea I agree we have had the same MSQ roulette since day 1 it needs some new shit anyway. I'd bug your friends until they help you though.


Now on to one of the best quotes I've seen in recent years regarding MMOs





^^^ THIS IS SO ACCURATE. WoW brought about the age where MMORPGs are basically just ORPGs. They literally do everything they can to make it where you can get through the whole game without ever speaking to another human being and its damn sad. There are plenty of single player games already but instead of playing those people came around and destroyed what MMOs were about.

I hate the duty finder a lot because of this. And I'm not even that social. And on top of that the devs make many things too easy because of it Alexander story mode why is it easier to clear this at level 60 yet people seem wipe to Bismark normal more than A4?

But to OP's post no that dungeon should not be removed from main story but it should have been added to expert roulette. Problem of doing that thou is there's no chests for gear there.