BRDs not using WM -_-

[DarkmoonVael]

"This is very counter productive no dungeon should take 45mins cause you choose to play selfishly.."

No one should feel they have the right to tell another person how to play in a game the other person is paying for. THAT is selfishness.


This spin doctored version that was created by the elitist of ffxi needed to die with ffxi.

TL;DR Dont tell me how to play. Leave or kick me from the group. But be ready to deal with a GM after I report you for kicking me for a non-supported reason.

Also if you are going to try and use the trite excuse of "i pay my sub for this" think about this, its 3 people paying sub vs 1, you gimp your performance deliberately, then you get kicked.

[Shirobi]

Also if you are going to try and use the trite excuse of "i pay my sub for this" think about this, its 3 people paying sub vs 1, you gimp your performance deliberately, then you get kicked.

SE doesnt see it that way, however.

Please refrain from encouraging others to break the ToS by abusing the vote kick function. ^^;

[DarkmoonVael]

SE doesnt see it that way, however.

Please refrain from encouraging others to break the ToS by abusing the vote kick function. ^^;

I am not. Please refrain from absolutely ridiculous public accusation like this that are entirely untrue and unfounded.

Difference in playstyle is a legitimate reason to kick people as far as i am aware. If someone is deliberately gimping their performance to the detriment of the group it can be classed as either difference in playstyle or even harassment.

[aabe]

SE doesnt see it that way, however.

Please refrain from encouraging others to break the ToS by abusing the vote kick function. ^^;

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...28#post2358628

The reasons for dismissal are not all encompassing, which means that there may be valid reasons for dismissal outside of those four examples. Good examples of this that have been provided in this thread are the refusal to fulfill one's job function.

[KimikoDelsia]

As for kicking bards for intentionally gimping their damage? That's just plain stupid. A bard not using WM because they feel the dps boost isn't worth the downsides with it isn't instantly a jerk who wants to slow you down. You're looking at extremest and grouping everyone with them.

It's like saying tanks shouldn't be allowed to use STR accessories because that's not how they were intended to be played. Should a tank intentionally taking more damage and having less HP be kicked from the group for not playing as intended? No? Then neither should a bard.

[RiceisNice]

SE doesnt see it that way, however.

Please refrain from encouraging others to break the ToS by abusing the vote kick function ^^;

It;s not abusing the ToS if we're kicking someone for a playstyle difference, specifically someone that deliberately plays poorly and slows the party down (and I'm talking by degrees of 40+ minute clears when a dungeon should otherwise take 30 on average, 40 with wipes)

[RinchanNau]

It's actually a valid reason to kick people for difference in play style. Provided the ones who kick you do not harass you for low DPS they're very unlikely to receive any sort of penalty.

Sure you pay 12.99. But so does everyone else. You should be respectful of their time and money just as much as your expect them to be respectful of you paying a sub.

[Seoulstar]

It's actually a valid reason to kick people for difference in play style. Provided the ones who kick you do not harass you for low DPS they're very unlikely to receive any sort of penalty.

Sure you pay 12.99. But so does everyone else. You should be respectful of their time and money just as much as your expect them to be respectful of you paying a sub.

It's a lose/lose situation here. Forcing people to play a class in a way that is completely not fun isn't respecting their money and time since they spent hours upon hours enjoying that certain class. Have to look at it from both sides, that and I've grown tired of the whole time thing since people just love to use that as an excuse to harass new players who want to watch the story cutscenes.

[Valkyrie-Amber]

well if your ping is 200+ don't play a proc class like brd cause even if in wm your dps will be shocking cause you have a 2 second delay on you procs and brd now is purely proc based especially in WM caster mode.

[rappa]

The last time i said a player he should improve his rotation, i was kicked. Now i kick others players who undeperform. A player doing 1k dps and other 400dps with similar gear is not valid.