BRDs not using WM -_-

[Ryythe]

If WM works like GB, it's not always in your interest to keep it up 100% of the time. On the other hand, if your BRDs aren't even turning it on, that's pretty terrible.

Also, sight unseen, there's a high probability those BRDs are undergeared like mad, so even if they did use WM they'd still be dead weight. WM isn't so much of a DPS boost that you'd go from 4 to 2 if your weapon is still i90.

Except if it is like GB then you do want it up 100%....

[Scum]

Except if it is like GB then you do want it up 100%....

I heard you've managed to keep it up 110% of the time.

Please respond.

[JackFross]

Gonna just say one thing.

If their dps is so low out of WM that the dungeon took 45m, assuming you're doing stellar DPS beside them, boosting that damage by the 30% from WM isn't going to change shit. 130% of a bard playing at 30-40% efficiency is still just 39-52% of their potential efficiency.

[T2teddy]

Well I just got WM when i hit 52 a couple of weeks ago, and in my opinion it's useless as tits on a bull without EA, IJ and the level 60 skill. Y'know cast times, no auto attack, totally borked procs.... >.<
I've always been the sort to stand still more often than not so that's not an issue. So I'm just trying to level up to 60 for the full kit...maybe then I'll like my bard again

[AxelDH]

Well I just got WM when i hit 52 a couple of weeks ago, and in my opinion it's useless as tits on a bull without EA, IJ and the level 60 skill. Y'know cast times, no auto attack, totally borked procs.... >.<
I've always been the sort to stand still more often than not so that's not an issue. So I'm just trying to level up to 60 for the full kit...maybe then I'll like my bard again

At level 52, in terms of single target DPS, you probably wont benefit much without EA/IJ. But Minuet is good to use during the trash pulls, where you will be multi-dotting and using Rain of Death procs, and/or Quick Nock. The loss of auto attacks is pretty insignificant in AOE situations.

[AniCelestine]

Well I just got WM when i hit 52 a couple of weeks ago, and in my opinion it's useless as tits on a bull without EA, IJ and the level 60 skill. Y'know cast times, no auto attack, totally borked procs.... >.<
I've always been the sort to stand still more often than not so that's not an issue. So I'm just trying to level up to 60 for the full kit...maybe then I'll like my bard again

WM is useless until Iron Jaws. But I'm pretty sure the point on OP was brd/mch at 60 in ex roulets.

Like said earlier, if tanks/healers are kicked for doing a poor job, why shouldn't dps be kicked for excelling poorly at their job?

Sure that's not the reason why vote kick was added, but if people are gone use it for that atleast bring in some equality between roles.

[Pooky_Pasha]

stuff

WM doesn't suck, the player using it would be the part of the equation that sucks. Also, if the dungeon is taking 45 minutes, that group has more issues with damage than a single BRD not using WM.

[Underlord]

I had a lvl 50 brd pre HW, n neglected to bring it to 60 because of the complaints of WM. But recently I decided, wth let's try. In my perspective its not nearly as bad as everyone makes it out to be. I put up good numbers as well. Granted not numbers like a drg or blm, but good enough where im not a hindrance n helPing. So if people aren't using it at all... they simply don't know what they are doing

[Claire_Pendragon]

Slight derail.

First of, no one can play 110%, you can´t do more than you are able to do.

Technically, he didn't say that, he said

other dps are forced to play 110% more then their usual to make up for the lack of dps from one..

So if their usual is 40% of what they are capable, then it is possible to add more.
(Most of the time, when people used to use the phrase "give it a 110%" they didn't mean surpass your physical limits. But as time went on, the phrase was used with exaggeration, and started to actually mean it with some or most people.)

[Aiselia]

@topic:

Maybe, just maybe, those people are among the Bards on this forum who complained about how they hate the cast times of WM and were told on this forum "just don't use it" because "nobody relies on the Bard for DPS".

Out of curiosity, and I'm pretty sure the honest answer is going to be no, have you ever bothered to ask them directly why they're not using it? Or did you skip to just asking completely unrelated people here to speculate on why random people may not want to use WM?

So if their usual is 40% of what they are capable, then it is possible to add more.
(Most of the time, when people used to use the phrase "give it a 110%" they didn't mean surpass your physical limits. But as time went on, the phrase was used with exaggeration, and started to actually mean it with some or most people.)

Of course, anyone that isn't playing at 100% of their capability at all times doesn't have a right to complain about a Bard not using WM because a slacker shouldn't complain about slackers.
So it's actually far safer to assume that their usual is 100% of their capability because anything less is hypocrisy.