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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Freyyy View Post
    Considering that dodge is calculated with enemy accuracy, I think that they're both one and the same. Plus when you have an ally who dodges an attack the flying text on him is "MISS" but when you're the person who dodges an attack it's "Dodge" so...
    In 1.x the term "miss" was used even on attacks against oneself if the enemy missed. (They do not have perfect hit chance.) Calling all enemy missed attacks as "dodges" if personal, and all non-personal dodges/misses as "misses" was just a change in display since ARR. Try aggroing in front of a higher level caster mob, pop your dodge buffs (DA-DD / Featherfoot) and see how effective that is. Now try blinding the enemy and see how much more you "dodge" (sadly w/o triggering Haymaker).

    It's possible that I've just been very unlucky for the past 2 years, and that Shade Shift, when still the guaranteed Perfect Dodge (in 2.x), was only allowed to trigger on physical attacks despite this not being shown on the tooltip... but I really doubt it.
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    Freyja Redgold
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
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    Shade Shift was only for physical attacks since the beginning. It was specified in the tooltip, something like "Guaranteed dodge for the next physical attack".

    And just did the test :



    I remembered that I dodged a lot of magical attacks when levelling MNK and still got haymaker procs. I don't know for 1.0 but since ARR dodge and miss are both the same thing. It's just that when you're the one who does the attack, you miss, but when you receive the attack, you dodge. When a 3rd person is seeing this as a spectator, you both miss eachother.
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