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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    I wonder how many of the cases in which players have "witnessed parsers causing harassment" have actually been situations where parser hasn't even been used. Yesterday I was doing Alexander (normal) and during one disasterous floor 2 run a melee DD refused to drive the gobwalker because "he was doing 200 more DPS than the NIN". Now this situation could be read as someone who's parsing gloating their superiority. Only there wasn't really any significant difference in DPS between the two. The problem is, no one could point that out because we don't have official parsers.

    I've seen similar situations before, once in Ravana (normal) when the party had trouble killing the ganas, and after two wipes one DD left shouting at other DDs how much they suck. Yeah they weren't good, but the person who left was actually the one with the lowest DPS. Similarly once in the Aery, the two DDs in the party were unable to kill the "prisons" during the last boss, even with help from the healer, and one of the DDs called the other one out for low DPS and proceeded to kick them (it succeeded even though I voted against it). Guess what, the person who did the kicking and called the other DD bad was again doing less than the person who got kicked (though neither of them were doing what they should have been). Of course we got a better second DD to replace the one who got kicked and proceeded to clear it without issues, so the remaining original DD probably thought there was nothing wrong with his performance and he had been right to kick the "bad" one.

    These are just individual situations I've seen, but I'm sure they don't end here. With a parser these kind of baseless accusations can be prevented and all the discussions on group's DPS failures will be based on facts. I consider that to be the fairest situation for everyone.
    There was a thread posted from reddit about this issue. The OP did 100 Alex NM runs and recored what happened. There were something like 16 cases of low perrforming dps accusing the higher performing dps of sucking and being at fault. There were also a number of cases of the low performing dps iniating a kick against the higher performing one.

    The argument that parsers would prevent this harassment was largely ignored and discarded.
    Quote Originally Posted by MentheusDreyar View Post
    Haha thanks for editing while i was typing a reply, got confused for a second there
    Multi-editing posts is becoming a tiresome specialty of mine since I'm phone posting.

    I still need to resond to kosmos' last post. I just need a coffee before I can get into editing quotes. That 1000 char limit really hinders debate.
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    Last edited by Whiteroom; 10-20-2015 at 05:30 AM.