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    @ whiteroom

    that just....... dumb....... It doesn't take a lvl 60 or alex savage to understand what is being said. Your taking a character for face value, and pretty muich stating no one with those requirements can make an opinion about the suggestion of something added that effects EVERYONE

    and it scientifically not an assumption that the negatives out waight the positives. Just look at gaming, history, and human nature.

    Male gamers in the pro leagues have infact excluded females stated they suck at games. (there has been a study on this google it)

    Humans always find ways to exclude themselves to be better then someone else, from slavery to poverty, to skin color. (history google it)

    It also happens in everygame parser are ok'ed people exclude others if given the tools to, people already exclude others for being new by either leaving or kicking them, there is no assumption that people will exclude others. People would do it now if parser were not against the ToS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azazua_azura View Post
    @ whiteroom

    that just....... dumb....... It doesn't take a lvl 60 or alex savage to understand what is being said. Your taking a character for face value, and pretty muich stating no one with those requirements can make an opinion about the suggestion of something added that effects EVERYONE

    and it scientifically not an assumption that the negatives out waight the positives. Just look at gaming, history, and human nature.
    Thank you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post
    Tbh, it does lend a little bit of credibility. It shows that you actually play all of the content, and therfore can understand better what people are saying when the referance certian content to make a point. It also shows that you have put in at least bit of time to your classes and should have a better understanding of how each role opperates in each bit of content. It would probably take less time and effort to take a clss from 50-60, than she has put into this thread is a bit telling. Now obviously we don't know how hard she played the game prior to HW, but it is a little extreme to not have one of the jobs fully leveled by now. So well it is not the be all and end all of credibility. It can be a bit telling.
    Now read what I said, and read what you said. Then do that again. Do you see some inconsistancies with your response? It reminds me of a Dilbert cartoon someone on these forums has as their sig. I'm gonna go see if I can find it.
    Found it: http://dilbert.com/strip/2015-06-07
    Also, care to qualify that last part of your post I left in?

    Also, who are the "THEY" who say you need a parser to play the game? Could you provide quotes please? I figure Chif has probably said it, but I haven't bothered with many of his posts. As far as I have seen, people are saying it would greatly improve troubleshooting, rotation testing, self improvement, and sorting out trolls, amongst other things.

    You seem to be applying what you want people to be saying over what they actually are, and then arguing against that.


    And a final, you seem to keep bringing up that people can easily do everything, or at least most things a parser can do, with the battle log. From that viewpoint you could say the game already has a very clumsy one, so why are you against a refined one, that allows everyone to use it, and is far less clumsy and easier to read?
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    I agree that parser is going to affect all players no matter their level, so everyone sould be free to express their opinion and eat the flames for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Azazua_azura View Post
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    Okay for now I am going to pretend that all your worst parser horror stories are going to happen. Do I think negatives outweigh positives in such a scenario?

    ... Nope.

    If somebody is being harassed or excluded due to their performance I as a player am able to fix it.

    If somebody is not playing properly no matter the reason - I as a player can't fix it for the lack of tools. There are exceptions like spotting out half-afking monk, but in most cases you can't tell which dps is causing fails or more work for the healer.

    tl;dr I wouldn't say negatives outweigh positives.
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