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    Quote Originally Posted by Azazua_azura View Post
    @ thread

    Like I keep saying it is ignorant to assume that when you give people tools they won't use them.
    And it's ignorant of you to assume everyone will misuse that tool just because the possibility exists. Again baseless fearmongering.

    Quote Originally Posted by Azazua_azura View Post
    And players would infact harasse over numbers if it wasn't bannable, but using a parser is bannable. Whats stop anyone in this thread reporting any person for parser use from anyone of the parser crowd, And you can't factually claim "i use a parser but i don't care about df, so one no does." When i had years of experience with people giving a dam.
    There we go again, trying to state your assumptions are fact.

    And i'll say it once again to drill it into your ignorant head, parser's are NOT a ban-able offense, targeting and abusing players with the data is, go ahead and report us for using one, nothing will happen without proving we are legitimately harassing other players with it. Otherwise based on your "logic" and i use that term extremely loosely, all the world first teams would have been banned long ago.

    Now i've played all these MMO's you keep drawing your "experience" from, and i can say i very rarely encountered the kind of behavior you seem to be convinced will happen all the time. From an outside perspective those who cause the problems are far more likely to encounter them. Think on that for a minute

    All your "experience" is, is a biased POV. Experience holds no weight without being able to back it up with facts and data.

    Quote Originally Posted by Azazua_azura View Post
    Its not fear mongering to know that this would happen, nor ignorance. Its actually ignoent to clainm it wouldn't happen. People did it in WoW often. I can't rell you how much content shouts i saw with must parse 1200 or some stuff. Some guilds even required you to parse at least 1100 before you joined them.
    Again, trying to say your assumptions are facts, a perfect display of ignorance. No one is claiming people won't abuse it, but it will mostly be the people who are currently abusing others that do so. So ultimately nothing will really change in that regard. Not to mention people in general in this community can't take the tiniest bit of criticism without calling it harassment, which it plain isn't. And trust me, a large amount of "harassment" in this game is actually taking criticism way out of proportion and only they see it as harassment.

    I haven't even heard of someone getting banned for using parser data to help someone, hell i do it all the time, as it's clear from anyone with an ounce of common sense that it's not abuse of a parser. I'm still waiting on my ban from SE

    The "abuse" and "harassment" is a biased POV of the person under criticism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Azazua_azura View Post
    Hell of alot worst in Aion though, but similar happen in dcuo once a official parser was released, but that was more over mic then anything.
    Encountered almost zero harassment and abuse in Aion and DCUO, only those who actually deserved it. So i'd call your "experience" biased at best. Personal experience doesn't hold any weight in an argument unless you can back it up with actual factual data.

    Quote Originally Posted by Azazua_azura View Post
    the only thing thats really ignorent is claiming parser are the cause of everything,
    Wait so you're admitting you are ignorant? Because that statement as basically a summary of your entire argument right there , you suddenly go from "parser causes all toxicity in games they shouldn't be in" to admitting it's ignorant to think they do? If you're gonna troll at least keep your story straight...

    Quote Originally Posted by Azazua_azura View Post
    Mostly because your acting like people on pc are the best players due to having access to parser.
    No one is saying this? What baseless assumption are you working off now? Seriously, i'm starting to think you really are a troll as i can't actually believe someone can be this ignorant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    Players who harass should not be the determinant on the rest of the game. That is punishing the majority for the sake of preventing the minority.
    Which sadly no one seems to be able to understand.
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    Last edited by MentheusDreyar; 10-18-2015 at 09:48 PM.