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    Quote Originally Posted by Chif View Post
    You know when I see you character is galaka and your main is blm this is more than enough for me to know that is your dps is low .
    That line, with all due respect, shows your ignorance of the differences between FFXI and FFXIV.

    For a start, there is no Galka in 14 ^_^

    For the main point. Racial differences in stats is so small between races in 14 that it is nigh innoticeable in performance. Even in XI, in the early days, yes it made a difference as the numbers where small. Yet with seekers and the gear have bigger and bigger numbers the difference between races became less and less valid.

    The difference between a Lalafell caster and a Ro caser is, when same geared and same level is unnoticeable at max level. It only has a very minor difference whilst levelling early and numbers are smaller.

    But calling out a Ro caster as being obviously low DPS because of their race choice is, as I've stated before, ignorance of FF14.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    That line, with all due respect, shows your ignorance of the differences between FFXI and FFXIV.
    For the main point. Racial differences in stats is so small between races in 14 that it is nigh innoticeable in performance. Even in XI, in the early days, yes it made a difference as the numbers

    The difference between a Lalafell caster and a Ro caser is, when same geared and same level is unnoticeable at max level. It only has a very minor difference whilst levelling early and numbers are smaller.

    But calling out a Ro caster as being obviously low DPS because of their race choice is, as I've stated before, ignorance of FF14.
    Their is little difference between each race but this little difference very important When you doing hard raid or new contact some ppl wiping in A3s at less than 1% , if you want to be the beast in your job you have to choose beast race for doing maximum results .Iwas answers hes questions did he asking you to help him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chif View Post
    Their is little difference between each race but this little difference very important When you doing hard raid or new contact some ppl wiping in A3s at less than 1% , if you want to be the beast in your job you have to choose beast race for doing maximum results .Iwas answers hes questions did he asking you to help him?
    No, it's not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chif View Post
    Their is little difference between each race but this little difference very important When you doing hard raid or new contact some ppl wiping in A3s at less than 1% , if you want to be the beast in your job you have to choose beast race for doing maximum results .Iwas answers hes questions did he asking you to help him?
    ...He's a Hellsguard Roe. Their stats aren't even that bad for casters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayvee View Post
    ...He's a Hellsguard Roe. Their stats aren't even that bad for casters.
    You have any idea how ppl can make new rotation or how to know how much they are dps ? Need solutions. i was in pt as tank and iwas 1st on all dps with big difference !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chif View Post
    You have any idea how ppl can make new rotation or how to know how much they are dps ? Need solutions. i was in pt as tank and iwas 1st on all dps with big difference !
    What does this do with what she said?

    I myself am very pro parser, but I have to say, you come off as the exact kind of person the other side uses as the reason not to have one.

    I don't know what your situation is, and it could be the the way you communcate due to a language barrier, as well as terrible formatting, but you really are coming off in a more than negative fashion in the posts I can bear to force myself through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post
    What does this do with what she said?

    I myself am very pro parser, but I have to say, you come off as the exact kind of person the other side uses as the reason not to have one.

    I don't know what your situation is, and it could be the the way you communcate due to a language barrier, as well as terrible formatting, but you really are coming off in a more than negative fashion in the posts I can bear to force myself through.
    What i meant is we need solutions not ppl talking about something else just "solutions" .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chif View Post
    What i meant is we need solutions not ppl talking about something else just "solutions" .
    It was you calling someone out as having low DPS because they are a Ro caster, you were being corrected is all. Which to be frank highlighted that you don't know as much as you try to imply about FFXIV and could lead you to removing someone because of their race+job choice even though it makes practically zero difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chif View Post
    Their is little difference between each race but this little difference very important When you doing hard raid or new contact some ppl wiping in A3s at less than 1% , if you want to be the beast in your job you have to choose beast race for doing maximum results .Iwas answers hes questions did he asking you to help him?
    No... you didn't 'answers hes questions' because he didn't pose one, he GAVE an answer.
    Quote Originally Posted by kingatlas View Post
    You don't need a parser, you have access to this board. Go to DPS board, and look up your Role.
    You will see optimal rotations and ideas for rotations. All kind of people talking about it.

    What too much work to read something... go make another useless thread then.
    I'm done with the parser 'debate' because there's been excellent posts to that in both of the currently running threads...
    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    I understand that, but that's not what my point was.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    Well that's very easy to break down
    ...but saying 1-2 point stat differences equals 1% is a gross misunderstanding of the game. They purposely designed the stats and the classes so that there is no ideal build. You can be a roegadyn thaumaturge all day long and still be hitting as hard as a lalafell thaumaturge if you've kept your gear current. 1-2 points is nothing compared to grand totals in the 900-1000 range. If anything, all your 'answers' does is illustrate just how much you don't know about the game you're purporting to be an expert at.
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    Last edited by Gilraen; 10-14-2015 at 11:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chif View Post
    Their is little difference between each race but this little difference very important When you doing hard raid or new contact some ppl wiping in A3s at less than 1% , if you want to be the beast in your job you have to choose beast race for doing maximum results .Iwas answers hes questions did he asking you to help him?
    There is a maximum of 6 points difference between races. In an extremely rare situation, if all 8 people are the worst racial choice for their job, this is 48 main stat point differences, probably around 60 dps difference as a raid. I'm sure there are situations where 50 or 60 more raid dps would be the difference in wipe or clear, however, content is not tuned so tightly as to take racial stats into account. SE has stated as such, they want us to be the races we want to be without it being detrimental. In short, blaming racial stats for sub 1% wipe is pretty damn low.
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    Last edited by whiskeybravo; 10-14-2015 at 11:11 PM.

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