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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterLuna View Post
    As far as I'm aware, he would have had to tab out and check our DPS before acting that way. He went to the effort of looking at the DPS numbers before telling the DRG that his DPS was bad.
    I'll have to agree with Maleviction on his point. Harrassment with an official parser is the same as harassment with an unofficial parser. You get the ban for the harassment, not for the parser.

    What would have changed were it an official parser in your example:
    Everyone could have seen the numbers.
    Maybe he was actually on point for his ilvl, and that could be proven.
    Maybe he was actually playing really poorly, and might look to improve, given that he would actually know it, rather than have some nugget spewing it at him.

    None of that forgives the nugget, but do you think his parser made him a nugget or was he already one. Was he emboldened knowing it was only him who could see the numbers and therefore not be called on it. As far as tabbing out, you must be able to get an overlay rather than something you tab to check.

    Quote Originally Posted by WinterLuna View Post

    Edit: by the way, I'm not arguing against the thread. My point was that people do get harrased because of parsers.
    Do the majority (who get harrased), get harassed by because of parsers? Or because the parser shows sub par behavior on their part?

    Ignoring for the moment, the foolish ones who don't know how to read a parser and apply it to the content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post
    What would have changed were it an official parser in your example:
    Everyone could have seen the numbers.
    The official parser the defs are working on is one that don't show your numbers to others
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    The official parser the defs are working on is one that don't show your numbers to others
    where did you get the info that they are working on one, please link.

    Quote Originally Posted by Azazua_azura View Post
    @ ryel

    I wasn't finished but at least from my experience there has been a raise in str geared tanks since the release of Alex savage due to the dps check on AS3 i believe, so to compensate for damage tanks been gearing in str.
    STR tanks have been the standard since well before HW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post
    where did you get the info that they are working on one, please link.



    STR tanks have been the standard since well before HW.
    I've been playing since launch and 1.0 prior.... thats a big NO. most tanks i saw in 2.0 and on was vit geared in 4 man content. once as3 was out every tank i saw was str based in 4 man content.

    Quote Originally Posted by OPneedNerfs View Post
    FFXIV: People who haven't used parsers explaining why parsers are bad for doing what they think parsers do.
    first off me and red know about parser what they do etc.

    we played an mmo that had a built in parser system. I also have been playing mmo for 10+ years and been around this parser mantality.

    people rely too much on parrse numbers to pick apart who is doing good and who is doing bad (as per whatr people mostly use them for) In most statics i seen, been apart of, or heard complants about people gripe on if a person has low dps or not. People use it as a scale to see if they are playing well or not.

    what me and red are saying is dmg numbers are unreliable scource to judhe if a person is playing well or not. Niether of us nor has anyone ever stated irs meant to hand hold content.

    What people do debate is the communities over all mind or understanding with the info given by parser which by that thread, could be completely wrong. Or the patser a person is using is poorly coded.

    What i was trying to state is parser numbers are inconsistent, how do you know what is a good parse number vs bad. What if a person you parsed as a judgment call was an absolute fluke, how can you judge numbers between two players who are geared different play differentm have different internet and live in different areas. Or have different levels of understanding content.

    which again why me and red stated their are unreliable.

    And again i do know what parser do, again dcuo has one built in. And nymbers are never the samec person to person, or content to content.
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    Last edited by Azazua_azura; 10-12-2015 at 04:26 PM.