parse for ps4 users !

[Azazua_azura]

Btw good player have parse already, they are not waiting SE to addit .

and? thats a bit generalizing, not all good players play on pc, or have pc buddies. Please do get your fact straight as you make wiold assumptions that are not facts.

[MentheusDreyar]

Snip.

And what part of those examples involve parsers? None.

That would of happened with or without one, so your whole point is people are dicks? Yeah so what? That's nothing new. But depriving people of an incredibly useful tool because of those minority is selfish.

Those who abuse people now will abuse them regardless, and most of the time it's those poor players that are doing it. If nothing else you can use the parser to defend yourself and others.

If you actually stop your fearmongering for 1 min and take the time to look at anything the pro-parser crowd are saying you'd find the benefits greatly outweigh the negatives. And most of the negatives are happening now, even without a parser, so realistically nothing will change in regards to the abuse/harassment of other players. Which is still report-able!!!

Once a tool is put in people will use it, and they will infact exclude new players for not parsing high. Which is the last thing we need in DF. This games community is already becoming less and less new player friendly.

Just because some raiders don't care or parse df content, doesn't mean that is how the general community is.

I like how you try to pass off your opinion as fact, it's laughable really.

The games community is slowly becoming less tolerant of BAD players, not adequate, not mediocre, BAD which is well within reason as these players are ruining the experience for everyone else. Maybe you should stop thinking so pathetically low of the community in general? 90% of people won't give a damn if you're parsing a little low, as long as content is getting done and you aren't making others work too hard to pick up your slack.

To turn your quote back on you: (and i'll even put it in bold for you)
Just because some people are jerks and abuse people doesn't mean that is how the general community is.

Honestly the more you post the more i get the feeling you're incredibly opinionated to the point you'll ignore everything else put in front of you because you think you're undeniably wrong.

I mean no offense by this, but that is just how you are coming off to me.

Please do get your fact straight as you make wild assumptions that are not facts.

Ermmm... ditto to you

[ShanaShirayuki]

@ sapphic i think your the only sane person in this thread as you present your side nicely.

And this is why no one will take what you say seriously, with backhanded compliments such as this. I agree with MentheusDreyar's last point, there have been many well articulated points made by pro parsing players and the only thing you can say is they're all insane for not agreeing with you.

[Sapphic]

To start with and to remind. I am Pro Parser.

The only viable reason I can see for not adding an official parser yet is they would not be able to add it for the PS3, because, you know, limitations. Us Pc users have or have access to an unofficial parser, key word is unofficial. By adding one which would be PC and PS4 only it would segregate teh PS3 users from the rest.

Albeit, when they do add mod support as they promised, one of the first things, pretty much guaranteed, to be created for it will be a parser. So we will get one whether players want it or not.

Even so there won't be a stop on the ability to report douchbaggery, whether thats with a parser or not.

[Kallera]

There isn't going to be a console developed parser that won't be outdone by a PC developed parser eventually. It will cause the problem of scaling difficulty, as now the assumptions will be made of the performance of people that have access to whichever parser is updated for the latest content and creeping features developed by the PC fanbase. This can be far away from anything SE develops officially, and end up putting console players back in the same boat.

[Chif]

Waiting answers from Yoshi-P. Support parse for ps4 pls .

[Gilraen]

Waiting answers from Yoshi-P. Support parse for ps4 pls .

Then you're going to be waiting a very long time. The only people that have responded to threads like these have been GMs and moderators, and only then it's been to detail the legality of third party software.

[Whiteroom]

Waiting answers from Yoshi-P. Support parse for ps4 pls .

Why would he ever answer here. No one from SE will be would ever give a response in a thread like this. All this can possibly be is feedback. If they decide to add one, you will hear of it in a live letter or something like that.

[Kosmos992k]

Btw good player have parse already, they are not waiting SE to addit .

No. Thats an unfounded generalization. Its true to say that some good players parse, and that some do not. Quite apart from anything rlse there are a lot of very good players on PS3/PS4 the very fact that console players were amoung those downing coil should be ample proof of that. The simple fact is that you do not need a parser to be good at this game, you simply need to know your skills and play regularly, and have the desire to do well.

I think it is actually quite insulting to claim that anyone needs a parser to be good (which is the logical conclusion of almost everything you've said). If you feel that need, to use a parser, that is your decision, but you don't get to decide that for me or anyone else. I'm actually pretty surprised that anyone thinks that a parser is neccessary to learn to play well. I can see that if there is a specificdpsche k in a specific piece of end game content, a parser is a tool that would help identify specific things that the team could do to improve their collective dps, but that is a specific circumstance. In general play, I don't think a parser will help any more than a training dummy.

Fundamentally you don't need a parser in order to improve your skills and performance, you simply need to learn your skills and practice by playing, most of allyou have to wantto do well. Players that want to do better do so without a parser. Players that don't, won't, whether there is a parser or not.

Honestly the idea that you can't be good without a parser reminds me of iPhone users who can't decide where to eat without askin Siri. In the end, a parser is just a tool, there is no substitute for actually learning your job.

[Chif]

Why would he ever answer here. No one from SE will be would ever give a response in a thread like this. All this can possibly be is feedback. If they decide to add one, you will hear of it in a live letter or something like that.

Yep from live litter.