parse for ps4 users !

[MentheusDreyar]

Actually I have experienced the bad out weight the good more than the other way round
I have seen it become a norm in community the number become speaking power

I would say it again, if the raid design need it, leave it in binding coil and Alex

It sucks that you have experienced more of the negativity yourself, but what no one anti parser is thinking about is the overall experience throughout the entire player base. Statistically people will still experience the toxicity from the a-holes unless everyone suddenly becomes a saint. That is a plain fact, it will never be fully removed. But for every single report of harassment, there will be many less reports because either people will realize they cant play sub-par anymore and improve, reducing the overall level of harassment or they wont improve and continue to be removed and continue to complain. If you don't give them a legitimate reason to remove you then they won't, and if they kick you for none legitimate reasons there is still the ability to report those players, it's not like its being removed.

Players without feedback won't improve. The game relies ALOT on DPS checks because the majority can't handle even simple mechanics competently, having no way to measure a groups performance in these situations is a huge mistake and it leads to all sorts of harassment, which you are trying to avoid. And it's not just raids that have DPS checks quite of few dungeons have them too, they aren't even remotely hard and yet people still fail them, further fueling the fire of toxicity.

The fact people are actively avoiding DF should clearly tell you the general level of play is not good enough.

[Sapphic]

I'll quote myself, as it seems that some people think about parsers in a void, thus only seeing their benefits:


You just need to see the behavior of these players here and in every other MMO that has allowed or implemented open parsers (or here, even with the "don't talk about it" policy). It's not just a small number of people noticing this, otherwise we wouldn't have this discussion in every MMO out there.

Yet it is just the same, small number of players who are vehemently against parsers. Maybe those getting called out when parsers are used should look at themselves instead of the tool.

Use you anecdotal evidence to answer this if you can, Why is it ok for a DPS to underperform and not be held acountable whereas a tank underperforming or a healer underperforming is? By refusing to answer it makes your points moot.

It is easy to spot a Tank or healer that is underperforming to the standard required to clear content. How do you know then if required DPS is 1000 per DPS and one is pulling 1000 DPS and the second is pulling 900? All situations lead to not completing the content. Or one DPS is pushing 1000 and the other is pushing 300 but believes vehemently that they are doing good?

[MentheusDreyar]

Yet it is just the same, small number of players who are vehemently against parsers. Maybe those getting called out when parsers are used should look at themselves instead of the tool.

Use you anecdotal evidence to answer this if you can, Why is it ok for a DPS to underperform and not be held acountable whereas a tank underperforming or a healer underperforming is? By refusing to answer it makes your points moot.

Time for the daily "Because harassment" comeback they can't answer it because there have no legitimate answer to it.

[Yshnal]

Yet it is just the same, small number of players who are vehemently against parsers. Maybe those getting called out when parsers are used should look at themselves instead of the tool.

Use you anecdotal evidence to answer this if you can, Why is it ok for a DPS to underperform and not be held acountable whereas a tank underperforming or a healer underperforming is? By refusing to answer it makes your points moot.

Read my last post, please.

[Misutoraru]

I would say it again, if the raid design need it, leave it in binding coil and Alex

If you don't doing raid why you talking [/QUOTE]
Wow wow wow
First I say leave it in raid, so I will be a function in raid only
I don't care if it is official as long as I don't touch normal dungeon
And when do I say anything about ban?
I am not against it implements for raiding
But not in normal dungeon
That's the biggest gamble I could agree with

[Misutoraru]

I would say it again, if the raid design need it, leave it in binding coil and Alex

If you don't doing raid why you talking [/QUOTE]
Wow wow wow
First I say leave it in raid, so I will be a function in raid only
I don't care if it is official as long as I don't touch normal dungeon
And when do I say anything about ban?
I am not against it implements for raiding
But not in normal dungeon, the only time
That's the biggest gamble I could agree with

[Misutoraru]

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The fact people are actively avoiding DF should clearly tell you the general level of play is not good enough.

We are making assumptions base on a statistical calculations of our experience
It seem we are not likely to get to an agreement
I have seen how the tool being miss use and become a common tool to bashing ppl
You have seen the effort it help to improve the overall performance
At the end it is a tool, but how the person use it
Sometimes there aren't really a border between good and evil

[Chif]

People need parse to improve skills to doing dungeon, raid , choosing good ppl to make staitic give tips for each other many things .
If all ppl use that's mean it's official with out saying . What imeant about ban that's parse is lligle.
So you want to tell me let ppl waste my time in dungeon and my monthly payments??

[Sapphic]

Read my last post, please.

Can't see where you answer my question, just personal anecdotal "evidence".

So, enlighten me, where DO you answer that DPS don't need to be as accountable as tanks and healers in regards to performance in a team setting?

[Yeldir]

How to introduce official parser without hurting anybody's feelings? Make it individual choice.

In solo content give players option to turn it on/off.
In open world group content give party leader option to turn it on/off.
In duty finder content - Split queues. Right next to the "in progress" put an option "join party with parser" and "join party without parser". This option should be also active for roulettes.

Give players choice if they want to play with similarly minded players.

This is the best idea yet. It would lead to everyone using parsers in remarkably short order. The two boxes are basically "pass the dps check" and "don't pass the dps check". A few nights of option #2 and that queue is dead forever.