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    Misutoraru's Avatar
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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Chif View Post
    I would say it again, if the raid design need it, leave it in binding coil and Alex
    If you don't doing raid why you talking [/QUOTE]
    Wow wow wow
    First I say leave it in raid, so I will be a function in raid only
    I don't care if it is official as long as I don't touch normal dungeon
    And when do I say anything about ban?
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    Arch Idealist
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    Alpha
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    Blacksmith Lv 100
    How to introduce official parser without hurting anybody's feelings? Make it individual choice.

    In solo content give players option to turn it on/off.
    In open world group content give party leader option to turn it on/off.
    In duty finder content - Split queues. Right next to the "in progress" put an option "join party with parser" and "join party without parser". This option should be also active for roulettes.

    Give players choice if they want to play with similarly minded players.
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    Tatiana Thorne
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    Malboro
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Archaell View Post
    How to introduce official parser without hurting anybody's feelings? Make it individual choice.

    In solo content give players option to turn it on/off.
    In open world group content give party leader option to turn it on/off.
    In duty finder content - Split queues. Right next to the "in progress" put an option "join party with parser" and "join party without parser". This option should be also active for roulettes.

    Give players choice if they want to play with similarly minded players.
    This is the best idea yet. It would lead to everyone using parsers in remarkably short order. The two boxes are basically "pass the dps check" and "don't pass the dps check". A few nights of option #2 and that queue is dead forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chif View Post
    I would say it again, if the raid design need it, leave it in binding coil and Alex
    If you don't doing raid why you talking [/QUOTE]
    Wow wow wow
    First I say leave it in raid, so I will be a function in raid only
    I don't care if it is official as long as I don't touch normal dungeon
    And when do I say anything about ban?
    I am not against it implements for raiding
    But not in normal dungeon
    That's the biggest gamble I could agree with
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chif View Post
    I would say it again, if the raid design need it, leave it in binding coil and Alex
    If you don't doing raid why you talking [/QUOTE]
    Wow wow wow
    First I say leave it in raid, so I will be a function in raid only
    I don't care if it is official as long as I don't touch normal dungeon
    And when do I say anything about ban?
    I am not against it implements for raiding
    But not in normal dungeon, the only time
    That's the biggest gamble I could agree with
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    Quote Originally Posted by MentheusDreyar View Post
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    The fact people are actively avoiding DF should clearly tell you the general level of play is not good enough.
    We are making assumptions base on a statistical calculations of our experience
    It seem we are not likely to get to an agreement
    I have seen how the tool being miss use and become a common tool to bashing ppl
    You have seen the effort it help to improve the overall performance
    At the end it is a tool, but how the person use it
    Sometimes there aren't really a border between good and evil
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    Dr' Death
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    Culinarian Lv 60
    People need parse to improve skills to doing dungeon, raid , choosing good ppl to make staitic give tips for each other many things .
    If all ppl use that's mean it's official with out saying . What imeant about ban that's parse is lligle.
    So you want to tell me let ppl waste my time in dungeon and my monthly payments??
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    Last edited by Chif; 10-12-2015 at 08:40 PM.

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    Kori Fleming
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    Marauder Lv 80
    A parser for PS4 would be nice, though at this point it's just a convenience thing. If I need to know my DPS I just ask my party and that only happens in raids. Don't really need to know who's parsing what in a dungeon, it's fairly easy to tell who's not pulling their weight (especially from my perspective as a tank). That said, I think the dummy parsing feature is a step in the right direction... a baby step, but a step nonetheless.
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Why is it that SE added an examine feature, which lets anyone who stands near you, or anyone just viewing your lodestone profile, look at your gear? They can track your progression, your effort and your worth.

    Imagine if players didn't have the option. You suddenly can't see why your groups aren't reaching DPS checks, no one can single out anyone, because of glamour. Just little comments between each pull like "push the dps harder guys, we can do it this time." Isn't that nice?... but you're still failing content because someone, who although is a good player, is not so good as to keep up with the 20 iLevel difference between themselves and every other party member, but thinking about it, isn't being able to see someone's gear an atrocious and overstepping violation of freedom?

    Alternatively, being able to examine someone lets you look at gear to set goals for, to see what other players of your class consider BiS or just the neat Glamour they are using; to be admired and to be shown new things, isn't this that same violation of privacy and privilege?

    People don't kick people in average content for poor dps, because of parsers, they do because they are asses. The examine feature is enough for the toxic players to decide your worth.

    In raid content, it's the same except others can't really bully through it to help carry the extra weight from the dps gaps and the party will just collapse.

    I would love a parser to help me track improvement, figure out where my dps wanes and therefore where to improve.

    I know this won't change the mind of anyone who is against parsers, but my message is just a reiteration of: Parsers and Examine Character are tools and toxic players will always need the special snowflake attention from harassment, tools just make it easier to justify it to themselves.
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 10-12-2015 at 09:39 PM.

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    Meli San
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    Excalibur
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    Carpenter Lv 50
    I just can't take it anymore. A parser is not necessary to improve upon your rotation.
    This is not WoW where you need to know how much uhh what did they call it? DKP or some crap?
    Slowly as more people have come from other MMO's such as WoW to FFXIV this toxic mentality (that did not exist before) that parsers are necessary seems to continue to be the main point on conversation in the forums.
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