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    randysquirrel's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by AriaEnia View Post
    Met a tank last night in Alex 1 normal to get my bolt and he shouted that one healer didn't do any dps (a whm), and kept harassing that healer until we kill the oppressors, "can you at least throw some stone 3 cant you, lazy ass" etc etc
    He even harassed a ninja because my DPS (a smn) was higher than the ninja when we were doing single target. The ninja left but we still managed to finish it. The tank said "good riddance"
    My second time I've seen this happen in Alex 1.

    /shrug
    Plot twist: that tank was not running a parser, but neither was no-one else, He shouted out those remarks about people not pulling their weight, and because no-one else was running a parser, no-one could disagree.

    My point: Very rarely on these posts (god knows there are enough of them about parsers) do people consider that harassment MIGHT decline if we all had a parser. I play on PS4... in any content I'm in, someone can say I'm pulling great/abysmal dps and I have absolutely no idea if they are right or whatever, I must just accept what they say on blind faith, because I have no parser. If we all had equal access to parse, sure their might be some that use it to harass (but then we currently do anyway, as per your anecdote), but there might be less people calling others out when we can see THEIR numbers too
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    OPneedNerfs's Avatar
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    FFXIV: People who haven't used parsers explaining why parsers are bad for doing what they think parsers do.
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    If you want to be 1st on all world with out parse sry you can't if ppl don't use parse no 1 will kill Alexander Savage on time and if ppl don't know how to play this is not my problem helping ppl good I help all ppl that asking me to help but I need to help my self 1st parse helping me to improve my self yah for new ppl they don't want parse because they don't know about dps check they just doing dungeon after leaving game if all pc users don't use it yah we can say let us wait and give some time but the problem is 95٪ from pc users use it from 1.0 and I'm waiting , asking them to parse me if some 1 say some thing about parse pls tell us did you beat some thing 1st of all world !
    watch YouTube all 1st ppl have kill have it use it with "allot of options" not only parse, parse is must for clear the game on time .
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    Last edited by Chif; 10-12-2015 at 05:31 PM.

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    It's funny how there is always this small group of players who seem to witness someone using parser and abusing others because of low numbers everywhere no matter the content. By looking at this thread many who are against it are totally clueless how they even work.

    Oh and i'm also a PS4 player and want a parser. I don't want a training dummy since hitting it doesnt tell me shit. I want to know how I fare in actual content when im trying to find an optimal way to use buffs etc. Especially when SE is so keen on designing hard DPS checks like in A3/4S.
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    Last edited by Boss_Koivula; 10-12-2015 at 04:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boss_Koivula View Post
    It's funny how there is always this small group of players who seem to witness someone using parser and abusing others because of low numbers everywhere no matter the content.
    You may find it funny but I don't. Not in the slightest. I've had it happen to me in Fractal and, depressingly, after berating us over a couple wipes at the last boss the parser user left (it was the tank), we got a random replacement and finished the boss off like there were no problems at all. Yes, people will be jerks, this is a given. That fire's been burning since the world's been turning. An official parser, though, would be lighter fluid to that fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    finished the boss off like there were no problems at all.
    Could you tell me what was causing the wipes in your example? I have to wonder how could the new tank make such a difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archaell View Post
    Could you tell me what was causing the wipes in your example? I have to wonder how could the new tank make such a difference.
    Hell if I knew. The parser user kept going on about their DPS being on top and how could everyone else be sucking so much... After the third wipe I was about to tell them that if they swung their numbers around one more time I'm reporting them but they left before I'd even typed two words. It was really a stroke of luck we even got another tank, late in a dungeon it's often impossible to get replacements. I'm just glad I've yet to run into anyone like that since, noone deserves to be talked down to like that. Especially not by someone who apparently couldn't do their own role effectively.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chif View Post
    " My title is parse for ps4 user "pc user have it already and use it since 1.0 with a lot of options just need parse same as pc .
    I'm not on a PC, either. This game doesn't segregate by console, the effects of an official parser would be far and wide.
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    Last edited by Gilraen; 10-12-2015 at 11:40 PM.

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    Player Chif's Avatar
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    I'm not on a PC, either. This game doesn't segregate by console, the effects of an official parser would be far and wide.[/QUOTE]

    Without parse you can't improve your dps and skills. Do you clear any thing 1st on all world if no don't talk about some thing you don't know about it if yes you 100% useing parse that's mean with out parse you will be late in everything.
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    Player Chif's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    You may find it funny but I don't. Not in the slightest. I've had it happen to me in Fractal and, depressingly, after berating us over a couple wipes at the last boss the parser user left (it was the tank), we got a random replacement and finished the boss off like there were no problems at all. Yes, people will be jerks, this is a given. That fire's been burning since the world's been turning. An official parser, though, would be lighter fluid to that fire.
    " My title is parse for ps4 user "pc user have it already and use it since 1.0 with a lot of options just need parse same as pc .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    You may find it funny but I don't. Not in the slightest. I've had it happen to me in Fractal and, depressingly, after berating us over a couple wipes at the last boss the parser user left (it was the tank), we got a random replacement and finished the boss off like there were no problems at all. Yes, people will be jerks, this is a given. That fire's been burning since the world's been turning. An official parser, though, would be lighter fluid to that fire.
    OR... OR... An official parser would actually give YOU a way to see who is actually underperforming, and not just take the abuse by the tank... The fact that only ONE person has access to this information makes it way worse.

    Anyways.
    1) Idiots are going to be idiots, normal people are going to be normal people, seeing the numbers won't change either and you will still be able to report for harassment.
    2) Why is it OK that Tanks and Healers are required to perform to 120% of their job capabilities, while DPS can easily get away with doing less than 50% in the majority of content?
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