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    Taika's Avatar
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by WinterLuna View Post
    As far as I'm aware, he would have had to tab out and check our DPS before acting that way. He went to the effort of looking at the DPS numbers before telling the DRG that his DPS was bad. I honestly believe that he was just trying to act like the tough guy with the 'you suck, you're getting kicked' because he had some numbers to go by to back him up. If he didn't have those, he probably wouldn't have even noticed.
    I've seen DDs telling other DDs they suck and kick them for "low DPS" while the kicker themself has been the lowest DPS in the party. I've personally seen this happen twice. With an official parser those situations would have been prevented.
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    So all ppl have it exept ps4 users ,so that's why i want it cuz all ppl have it !!
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    Arch Idealist
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterLuna View Post
    the very reason people get banned for using a parser is because they've been reported for harassment. Also, swearing, insulting, and trying to belittle someone is harassment, not a 'disagreement.'
    If the players got banned for harassment, wouldn't then players abusing official parser still get banned for harassment?
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    Indira Light
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    Twintania
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archaell View Post
    If the players got banned for harassment, wouldn't then players abusing official parser still get banned for harassment?
    It's more of preventing people harassing in the first place, but I guess people have used parsers against the rules for that long that it wouldn't make a difference anyway. I don't really care whether a parser would be implemented but at the same time it's saddening to see people be harrased because their DPS isn't that of a maxed out player.

    Edit: by the way, I'm not arguing against the thread. My point was that people do get harrased because of parsers.
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    Last edited by WinterLuna; 10-12-2015 at 10:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterLuna View Post
    It's more of preventing people harassing in the first place, but I guess people have used parsers against the rules for that long that it wouldn't make a difference anyway. I don't really care whether a parser would be implemented but at the same time it's saddening to see people be harrased because their DPS isn't that of a maxed out player.
    For me it is saddening to see tanks and healers harassed because the dps is low and soft enrage mechanics make it harder on both roles. As some may see parser to cause toxicity, I see it as defensive tool for the two roles. I don't use parser, but it isn't hard to tell that due to low dps fights last longer, more healing is required, and also longer the fight more probable mistakes - yet there are no data to back it up. Less experienced tanks/healers then get discouraged from tanking/healing, because they assume that they are bad, while in fact, the dps are bad, but in this game it is too easy to blame the tanks/healers for mistakes of subpar dps players.
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by WinterLuna View Post
    The guy in Fractal literally said 'your DPS numbers aren't good enough for me'.
    And with a parser that DRG would be able to see. With a parser would be able to see if they are pulling close to expected avg numbers for their gear, or just a 3rd of that. If one DPS is pulling 1300 DPS and the other is pulling 300 then anyone who is pulling the second with a little common sense will think "Hmmm, I should be doing more." I would happily give advice to the second DPS to help them improve. Plus they would have instant confirmation that they have improved.

    If a parser was added for the PC and PS4 it would not stop you being able to report others, like now, for harrasment.

    Quote Originally Posted by sirDarts View Post
    Question for all the people against parsers:
    Why are Tanks and Healers required to do 120% of their job capabilities (= their job + DPS), yet DPS players are babied and can get away with doing less than 50%? Why?
    You are wasting your time asking that, it has been asked numerous times in other parser topics and all the anti-parser crowds seem to have a blind spot to that question. Only argument they have is, "because harrasment" based on anecdotal "evidence". Personally I found a more obnoxious form of harrasment over someone saying that your numbers are low is the one who puts in zero effort to the success of the party.

    Been MMOing since EQ1 with parsers and without, only time get called up on numbers when I decided to switch to a DPS role. You know what? After looking at the numbers, they were right. So I made an effort and improved. I got into the habit of practicing rotations until I felt comfortable with them, then I would join party content with the confidence that I would be able to contribute adequatly to the success of the run.

    There are numerous players, myself included, who are always willing to help players to self improve. There are numerous guides written by players that some insultingly call elitist/hardcore. (pro-tip it is not "casuals" that write all the extensive guides available on the internet).

    Theres no I in party and that player putting out 250 DPS when the other DPS is doing 1250 is not a team player. The rest of the team has every right to replace that 250 DPS player, just like the rest of the party has every right to replace a tank who cannot hold aggro or a healer that doesnt heal. Just with a parser that 250 DPS player will know exactly why and then is able to improve until they are no longer getting kicked from parties.
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    Last edited by Sapphic; 10-12-2015 at 06:33 PM.

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