parse for ps4 users !

[Chif]

I'm no 208 in Alexander savage I need to be 1st place .
http://www.fflogs.com/rankings/7#bos...Paladin&page=2
with out thise numpers how can you know your rank ? Parse show it to me .

[Kosmos992k]

I'm no 208 in Alexander savage I need to be 1st place .
http://www.fflogs.com/rankings/7#bos...Paladin&page=2
with out thise numpers how can you know your rank ? Parse show it to me .

I'm sorry, but I can't not ask this. Why do you need to know your rank? Why do you need to be1st? Why does that matter so much to you? Seriously who cares? And why? It's just a number.

You're quite literally demonstrating the point many have made about parsers introducing an air of competition into what should be a cooperative environment.

[Archaell]

I'm sorry, but I can't not ask this. Why do you need to know your rank? Why do you need to be1st? Why does that matter so much to you? Seriously who cares? And why? It's just a number.

You're quite literally demonstrating the point many have made about parsers introducing an air of competition into what should be a cooperative environment.

It isn't "just a number". You are basically devaluating all the effort these players put into the game. Also he said that he needs to be 1st, so it is clearly his goal. It's same as wanting to buy a house or collect all the ponies. Would you mock the players for it? Ponies? Such waste of time - you can ride your chocobo. House? Why? You can use the inn room, you silly... Exactly the same thing. Btw. in both cases you are competing against other players for rolls or free plots.

[Kosmos992k]

It isn't "just a number". You are basically devaluating all the effort these players put into the game. Also he said that he needs to be 1st, so it is clearly his goal. It's same as wanting to buy a house or collect all the ponies. Would you mock the players for it? Ponies? Such waste of time - you can ride your chocobo. House? Why? You can use the inn room, you silly... Exactly the same thing. Btw. in both cases you are competing against other players for rolls or free plots.

But, this is a coop game, not a competition, that's why there are no leaderboards. You mention this goal of his along side things that are actually supported in the game, yet his goal is entirely of his own making, and nothing supported by the game. I'm not mocking him, so please don't put words in my mouth. You described something as a waste oftime, I did not.

As for this point, his parsed dps is just a number, and a rank in an unofficial ranking table driven by a parsed dps score generated by a third party tool that is technically prohibited by the terms and conditions of service. It just seems a very arbitrary goal to have and actually makes a point many have posted about people having more than a little interest in their numbers, and those who've pointed out that parsing will bring an air of competition to something that is about cooperation

[Archaell]

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If the game is about "cooperation". Why don't all the players get the loot instead of the highest roller? Why do things on market boards not sell for fixed amount? Why do raiding guilds hide their strategies for a while? Why do players rush through the game to be the first max level of class x? Why do players flex their gear? Why do players want to create the best glamour? ...

I guess it is not due to competition, because it is not supported by the genre.

[Kallera]

It is not just dps that will be subject to it, this isn't just a problem just for dps, but one affecting how people treat others in content once it is implemented.

Besides, even if a parser gets brought in, players will want for more information, which means more real estate on the screen, and pc players will look to other home made solutions for it. Whether the SE devs are willing to be in an arms race with 3rd party program developers is their decision, but don't pretend this is only going to affect the lazy that want to take part in a3s when there are websites that track this information. The ability to misuse parser data is also real.

[Chif]

Btw good player have parse already, they are not waiting SE to addit .

[Azazua_azura]

Btw good player have parse already, they are not waiting SE to addit .

and? thats a bit generalizing, not all good players play on pc, or have pc buddies. Please do get your fact straight as you make wiold assumptions that are not facts.

[Kosmos992k]

Btw good player have parse already, they are not waiting SE to addit .

No. Thats an unfounded generalization. Its true to say that some good players parse, and that some do not. Quite apart from anything rlse there are a lot of very good players on PS3/PS4 the very fact that console players were amoung those downing coil should be ample proof of that. The simple fact is that you do not need a parser to be good at this game, you simply need to know your skills and play regularly, and have the desire to do well.

I think it is actually quite insulting to claim that anyone needs a parser to be good (which is the logical conclusion of almost everything you've said). If you feel that need, to use a parser, that is your decision, but you don't get to decide that for me or anyone else. I'm actually pretty surprised that anyone thinks that a parser is neccessary to learn to play well. I can see that if there is a specificdpsche k in a specific piece of end game content, a parser is a tool that would help identify specific things that the team could do to improve their collective dps, but that is a specific circumstance. In general play, I don't think a parser will help any more than a training dummy.

Fundamentally you don't need a parser in order to improve your skills and performance, you simply need to learn your skills and practice by playing, most of allyou have to wantto do well. Players that want to do better do so without a parser. Players that don't, won't, whether there is a parser or not.

Honestly the idea that you can't be good without a parser reminds me of iPhone users who can't decide where to eat without askin Siri. In the end, a parser is just a tool, there is no substitute for actually learning your job.

[MentheusDreyar]

Quite apart from anything rlse there are a lot of very good players on PS3/PS4 the very fact that console players were amoung those downing coil should be ample proof of that. The simple fact is that you do not need a parser to be good at this game, you simply need to know your skills and play regularly, and have the desire to do well.

You're failing to take into account that at least one person from of those teams was almost certainly parsing when the content was new given the odds virtually all statics have at least 1 PC player. Once the world firsts and those following within the month had come in and basically told everyone what to do chances are less, but generally statics do have one person parsing if one is available.

I'm actually pretty surprised that anyone thinks that a parser is neccessary to learn to play well. I can see that if there is a specificdpsche k in a specific piece of end game content, a parser is a tool that would help identify specific things that the team could do to improve their collective dps, but that is a specific circumstance. In general play, I don't think a parser will help any more than a training dummy.

Not necessary no, but an indispensable tool to find out where you stand and help fine tune your level of play, don't forget where all the optimal rotations everyone uses come from, parsers and yes these rotations are considered "playing well"

Specific uses for only end game content? yeah.... try any kind of trial that has a form on DPS check when it's new, for example Bismark HM and EX for many players. Can't see where a parser is helpful there? or would you rather bang your head pointlessly against a wall with little progress rather than use a tool to help you find out whats wrong in detail?

In general play, I don't think a parser will help any more than a training dummy.

Yes because all content that involves a DPS check is standing still hitting a dummy primal/<insert enemy of your choice> with no form of mechanics or need to move...

Hint that's sarcasm If you really believe that you are very naive or ignorant.