parse for ps4 users !

[Chif]

How should ppl know how much they are doing with out parse ?
How should I know my rotation better than my friend rotation ?
How should I know if I'm the beast or the worst in my group ?
Many questions need answers
If any 1 have answers for this questions pls tell me .

[Gilraen]

How should ppl know how much they are doing with out parse ?

You don't really need a parser to know how well or how poor you are doing, that's been shown time and again in practically every thread that's been posted on parsers.

How should I know my rotation better than my friend rotation ?
How should I know if I'm the beast or the worst in my group ?

This just makes me think you want to be able to officially criticize other players than actually compare data, which is very much the exact reason people like myself are against parsers.

Many questions need answers
If any 1 have answers for this questions pls tell me .

And again, you've gotten those answers, repeatedly, in this very thread. But it seems more you only want to see answers that extol the virtues of parsers than actually see how people have been getting on without them.

[Archaell]

You don't really need a parser to know how well or how poor you are doing, that's been shown time and again in practically every thread that's been posted on parsers.

From min/maxing perspective yes you do.

This just makes me think you want to be able to officially criticize other players than actually compare data, which is very much the exact reason people like myself are against parsers.

This just makes me feel that he wants to pull his own weight and doesn't want to hold his team back.

And again, you've gotten those answers, repeatedly, in this very thread. But it seems more you only want to see answers that extol the virtues of parsers than actually see how people have been getting on without them.

This brings an interesting question. How would be players going if there was no parser at all? I would imagine significant decrease of overall dps.

Edit:

I have to expand my thought a little bit more. If there were no parsers, it would lead to less dps. If there was less dps, there would be more failed dps checks. If there were more failed dps checks, there would be more failed runs. If there would be more failed runs, there would be more frustrated players. How would that affect toxic behaviour and harassment?

It seems parser actually decreases toxicity. Mindblowing.

[Whiteroom]

You don't really need a parser to know how well or how poor you are doing, that's been shown time and again in practically every thread that's been posted on parsers.

Actually, his question was how much, so yes he does. And your method can't give you anymore than a very rough idea, that is tainted depending on the quality of play from the rest of your team, as well as your own ability to read the instance. That is what has been shown.

Although, almost everyone who is against parsers has said differently, and said all you need to do is read a thread (where , shock! horror! The rotations have been figured out using parsers!), and hit a dummy that doesn't currently do anything more than help with muscle memory.

So to that stuff at the end of your post, people and the community have not been getting on fine without them. If you have ever read one of those how to threads on your class, you have benefitted from them. And given this thread and more to the point "The Issue Nobody Wants to Address" thread, and many others, a good chunk of people are not getting on fine at all.

[whiskeybravo]

So to that stuff at the end of your post, people and the community have not been getting on fine without them. If you have ever read one of those how to threads on your class, you have benefitted from them.

This may be the best point of all the arguments. You can be against parsers, OK. But if you've read any topic about your class (BiS, rotations, stat weights, etc), watched any video guide about your class or even about a particular instance, then you've been affected, if not utterly guided, by the help of parse data. This is a fact that can not be simply brushed under the rug and ignored in any argument against them.

[Chif]

You don't really need a parser to know how well or how poor you are doing, that's been shown time and again in practically every thread that's been posted on parsers.
This just makes me think you want to be able to officially criticize other players than actually compare data, which is very much the exact reason people like myself are against parsers.
And again, you've gotten those answers, repeatedly, in this very thread. But it seems more you only want to see answers that extol the virtues of parsers than actually see how people have been getting on without them.

Did you clear Alexandra savage ? Pls answer without proof = it's just only talk give me proof or some thing Ican see it not feel it maybe your practice is wasting of time I think you only can do less than 300dps can you give me a proof if you can do more than this number?

[Archaell]

Let's face it. Parser itself is a tool for evaluation and improvement.

The only issue comes from insecurity about player's performance. Be it your own or somebody else's.

How can we fix this insecurity?

[XiXiQ]

How can we fix this insecurity?

the same way any online data is handled, you give the user a choice.

do I want to turn my parser on?
do I want to share this parser information with others?

Some seem to want to argue they have a right to see other's data. Personally, I don't mind either way, just being able to see my own information would be useful enough.

[Archaell]

the same way any online data is handled, you give the user a choice.

do I want to turn my parser on?
do I want to share this parser information with others?

Some seem to want to argue they have a right to see other's data. Personally, I don't mind either way, just being able to see my own information would be useful enough.

I am totally behind the choice. Just match players who choose the same one together to preserve equality.

[Whiteroom]

the same way any online data is handled, you give the user a choice.

do I want to turn my parser on?
do I want to share this parser information with others?

Some seem to want to argue they have a right to see other's data. Personally, I don't mind either way, just being able to see my own information would be useful enough.

While I'm not against the choice, you should really think of what reaction people might have to someone hiding their numbers. Especially when things go south. Honestly think about it. Now looking at the rest of the parties numbers may not give them your exact numbers, but it wouldn't be hard to roughly know.

The only way this would be beneficial at all is, as Archeall said, you had two seperate DFs, one for parsing and the other not. I can tell you the queue times would be a lot longer in one than the other.