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    sirDarts's Avatar
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    Elyza Arcanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seoulstar View Post
    Use it for yourself, that's fine. Use it to insult another player which I had the unfortunate luck of seeing it happen in Alex a day or so ago..then I have a problem
    Pretty much everyone has a problem with that.
    Harassment is NEVER something that should be tolerated. But at the same time, blatant disregard of other people's time by completely slacking also should not be tolerated, it's already not tolerated for tanks and healers, but for some reason DPS get a free pass.
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    Suzuko Seki
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirDarts View Post
    Pretty much everyone has a problem with that.
    Harassment is NEVER something that should be tolerated. But at the same time, blatant disregard of other people's time by completely slacking also should not be tolerated, it's already not tolerated for tanks and healers, but for some reason DPS get a free pass.
    Here is the thing. That person who is apparently slacking may be doing something wrong. Maybe they're forgetting their dots or certain skills. It's not really a hard thing to give someone tips to better their DPS. If they don't listen, then that is their fault. But just sitting there insulting them won't help at all. It will most likely make the person do worse. I fail to understand why so many people that play this game would rather resort to just blatantly insulting instead of actually trying to help the person.
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seoulstar View Post
    But just sitting there insulting them won't help at all.
    No offense, but I feel like you should've just said this in party chat when you saw it. It's not really relevant to this discussion. No one here is saying people should go around insulting people.
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    Jamein Lowel
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Seoulstar View Post
    Here is the thing. That person who is apparently slacking may be doing something wrong. Maybe they're forgetting their dots or certain skills. It's not really a hard thing to give someone tips to better their DPS. If they don't listen, then that is their fault. But just sitting there insulting them won't help at all. It will most likely make the person do worse. I fail to understand why so many people that play this game would rather resort to just blatantly insulting instead of actually trying to help the person.
    So now we are back to where a parser would be useful, forget what other people might say that person who is doing something wrong can straight up see that other DPS are far above him, so he might take a step back and say woah, my numbers are terrible, wonder what I am doing wrong, and then go find out and improve.

    As for this whole, sitting there and insulting crap, I'm tired of this argument being the number one go to excuse for not having a parser, toxic players are toxic, whether they have a parser or not. I don't want a useful tool that would help the majority of the player base kept out of the game because of the minority of players that would be toxic no matter what, there is a report feature, simply use it if someone is harassing the same way you do for ANY other situation.

    Honestly for every person that complains about parse numbers right now I guarantee you there are a tonne of others using it that don't say a word, even when your bard is doing 260 DPS in A3 with Eso gear...(it happens)
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    Last edited by Jamein; 10-22-2015 at 06:09 PM.

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    Hott Cocoa
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    Spriggan
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    Bard Lv 80
    Honestly, I would laugh if people's parses are telling them they hit for 1350 DPS and SE's built in parse says it's actually 600.

    Because we all know everyone would continue to believe the larger number to feel better about themselves claiming that the official parse is flawed.
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    Arch Idealist
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    Alpha
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    Blacksmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
    Honestly, I would laugh if people's parses are telling them they hit for 1350 DPS and SE's built in parse says it's actually 600.

    Because we all know everyone would continue to believe the larger number to feel better about themselves claiming that the official parse is flawed.
    Unless it would be flawed on purpose... The conspiracy to save people's feelings O_O
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