parse for ps4 users !

[Whiteroom]

On that we can agree.


There were several posts that characterized that response, I'd have to go back and re-read the thread to pull a quote, which I'm not going to do, because I know we'll endup arguing semantics and interpretation of words, and will not agree.


I geniunely find it ironic thst people's criticism of a suggestion that would IMO reduce abuse, is to state that it would cause more toxicity. At the same time, the responses described reacting to players 'hiding' their numbers in an entirely negative manner. The implication bring that such players have something to hide. Basically the objection is framed as a self fulfilling prophesy of increased abuse. That is what I consider ironic about the responses.


Actually, I could not believe that people responded so negatively to implementing a full parser in-game, and giving players the option to opt in or out of participating in the parser. There was nothing grand about it, just a little incredulity.

Sorry it took so long to get back to this.

To me, it was not a negative response. It was people giving realistic critisisms of the idea. Tbh, I found, and still find it unrealistic that anyone cannot see how it actually serves to highlight a player. So I took it as willfully ignoring the obvious so that you could say "Ha! See!", or simply being able to accept critisisms of an idea presented by you.

I'm sorry this caused so much offense to you...

It's no problem, I didn't take any personal offense to it. It was more the attitude I took you as having strolling into the thread with. The whole, "I'm going to walk in halfway through and state things that have been being discussed for pages as if no one else was smart enough to think of them or post them!". I'm sure you probably felt a little of it when that pro parser fool came in a few pages back and did the same thing, but all in caps lock with "mind blown" pictures. It happens from time to time and sometime its just like "screw this one!"
But such is the power of the parser debate. We rub each other wrong in here, and thats ok.

[Kosmos992k]

Sorry it took so long to get back to this.

NP, I was checking the topic after seeing your mention earlier that you were still to reply.

To me, it was not a negative response. It was people giving realistic critisisms of the idea. Tbh, I found, and still find it unrealistic that anyone cannot see how it actually serves to highlight a player. So I took it as willfully ignoring the obvious so that you could say "Ha! See!", or simply being able to accept critisisms of an idea presented by you.

I can see how it would highlight a player, but I think that happens anyway with the existing use of parsers. Right now with the "don't ask, don't tell" policy regarding parser use, no one knows who is/is not parsing until they say so in chat. The problem with is that players who admit to parsing are potentially subject to discipline whether or not they have mis-used parser data at all - which is clearly unfair and wrong. With an official parser there is a chance to make it quite clear what constitutes acceptable use and conduct. Giving players the ability to opt in or out of parsing seems to me to go hand in hand with that clarity, making it easier for players of all types to understand what is going on, and avoid situations that could lead to trouble.

It's no problem, I didn't take any personal offense to it. It was more the attitude I took you as having strolling into the thread with. The whole, "I'm going to walk in halfway through and state things that have been being discussed for pages as if no one else was smart enough to think of them or post them!". I'm sure you probably felt a little of it when that pro parser fool came in a few pages back and did the same thing, but all in caps lock with "mind blown" pictures. It happens from time to time and sometime its just like "screw this one!"
But such is the power of the parser debate. We rub each other wrong in here, and thats ok.

Unfortunately, we often walk into debates halfway through because we find a post that triggers our desire to respond several pages deep in the more recent comments, before we've had a chance to read the remainder of the discussion. It is the power of debate, whether about parsers or other matters. Of course, text only discussions on the internet have suffered these kinds of difficulty since forever. Whether we rub each other wrong in this topic or others, we agree in other areas. Either way, it is, as you say, OK.