parse for ps4 users !

[raelgun]

I think we can all now agree to disagree and let this tangent of a thread lie, Chif has gotten himself banned thanks to that link he posted. I tried to warn him... I think we all tried to talk sense into him, but he didn't want to listen to anyone but the sound of his own 'awesome'. This 'debate' will keep 'raging' for pages on end so now that the instigator is taking a mandatory break from the forums how about we bow out of this discussion as well.

People were loud enough about nerfs and increasing primal mount drops, why should this thread lie dead? Its useful information for SE, its always funny that when people make good points a lot about dps parsers, theres always someone trying to close the thread.

[Gilraen]

...theres always someone trying to close the thread.

True, many good and bad points have been made on either side, but the person who was trying the hardest to close the thread is gone now. I'm not calling to close the thread, but every point that can be made on the subject has been made repeatedly and we're on our... third? Fourth rotation of the same arguments both for and against. This is the sad fate of every thread about parsers. Right now I think Square has the better notion here, if rumors are to be believed, that there will be some kind of parsing mini-game in the Gold Saucer. Full access no matter the console. Anything more than that and we're back to the lab again...

[Whiteroom]

True, many good and bad points have been made on either side, but the person who was trying the hardest to close the thread is gone now. I'm not calling to close the thread, but every point that can be made on the subject has been made repeatedly and we're on our... third? Fourth rotation of the same arguments both for and against. This is the sad fate of every thread about parsers. Right now I think Square has the better notion here, if rumors are to be believed, that there will be some kind of parsing mini-game in the Gold Saucer. Full access no matter the console. Anything more than that and we're back to the lab again...

You are actively trying to make this thread and the one about having the otpion too block first time runners from farm parties. Why are you so against giving players tools to preform better in their runs? Both of these tool would hinder trolls from getting others to play the game for them is the common theme.

I find that someone would actively try to bury requests for tools for player improvement interesting.


Of course they rotate through arguments. As long as the words are twisted or the arguments ignored, it wont move past them. And if this were to close, a new thread would pop up tomorrow. And they will continue to pop up for as long as uncleared dps checks and low perfoming dps are a major frustration.

[Jamein]

True, many good and bad points have been made on either side, but the person who was trying the hardest to close the thread is gone now. I'm not calling to close the thread, but every point that can be made on the subject has been made repeatedly and we're on our... third? Fourth rotation of the same arguments both for and against. This is the sad fate of every thread about parsers. Right now I think Square has the better notion here, if rumors are to be believed, that there will be some kind of parsing mini-game in the Gold Saucer. Full access no matter the console. Anything more than that and we're back to the lab again...

I'll keep arguing how overall parsers are a net benefit to the community till I am blue in the face. Isn't that what people do on these forums? Steps of faith had 20 topics dedicated to nerfing an easy fight. Hell there was a 40+ page thread complaining about it within 2 hours of its release if I remember right, and in the end people got what they wanted. A braindead fight.

So yeah, the parser conversation will continue, because those of us who want official parser support know it would overall benefit the community and sadly despite how many good points we make it will be overlooked until we scream just as loud as the people saying 'BUT PEOPLE WILL BE MEAN TO US ON THE INTERNET ABOUT NUMBERS'

I'm honestly just tired of having to deal with lazy/incompetent players in an MMO where people are meant to work together yet DPS classes get a free pass when they decide to pull sub 500 numbers when 300 of that is auto attacks from their eso weapon. A basic rotation would be enough to satisfy anyone on numbers outside of savage/scrict farm PF groups. If you're unwilling to learn even that then you are contributing nothing and it's an insult to the 7 other people carrying your ass.

As for a parser in golden saucer, worthless. Training dummy parses are great for max potential but what really matters is that you can keep up your DPS while dealing with mechanics.