parse for ps4 users !

[Ercapote]

Need does not equal want...

at any point my good sir I stated that my "needs" are above anyones elses I freely stated my opinon about the topic since we don't have the (option) to have it on ps4 that opinion (not demand) excuse me is pretty valid whether you agree or not that's your personal opinion... but as you say

People who want to parse pay to play the game.

people who don't want to parse pay to play the game.

I don'y know if you where trying to contradict yourself here but like said we all pay for this game, having more options doesn;t take anyones experience, now someone demanding that "useful tool" not to be implemented THEN is when you can tell me that my opinion is not above anyone else, and as I repetealy said (YOU DON'T NEED RUNNING SHOES TO RUN, BUT IT CERTAINLY HELPS and for those who have problems understandind metaphors YOU DON'T NEED A PARSER TO DPS, BUT IT CERTAINLY HELPS) care to read more carefully next time.

Of course the world firsts are going to use the path of least resistance and parse. It gives them the data they want faster than without.

Just because it's not usually done, doesn't mean it's impossible. Does the parser running in the background when they finally have the fight down mean anything to the people playing? Not really they know what they need to do and the numbers just support that they are doing things correctly. Would these clears never happen if people didn't parse? That's the real question.

a real question of which you don't have any back up confirmation to point out why my point where not valid and you are disagreeing with me for. I recommend you to look after your own words it's like you are constantly contradicting yourself. if you tell me a parser is not needed for progression, then prove it...but yet you can't

now about the topic of parser not needed for end-game fights... I can't put this more clear but Yes, Yes it is. please care to explain to me how are you pulling the most out of your abilities? are you using your own rotation or did you got your rotation from someone elses? how did you know you are doing optimal dps? do you know how guides are made? or are you beating every single fight of this hame without a guide? please care to explain to me how PARSERS are no needed? yes you can tell me you can beat stuff without parser but proof me that those world first didn't took the most advantages out of parsers and reason being one hell of a helpfull tool...for any serious progression group is needed to keep track of your dps and how to maximize your dps whiting those fight...

so again...how am I clearly wrong? perhaps you should not stick to words so literal as I see your entire post is base on "a MUST" word on my post instead on looking to it as a hole and breaking it down to your convenience.

[Jynx]

how PARSERS are no needed?

Trial and Error.

Any serious world firster would agree with me that it wouldn't be impossible to complete these fights, it would however probably take much longer, and more theorycraft beforehand instead of letting the parsers do the heavy mathmatical lifting. Optimal Rotiations don't need parsers to figure out it just as stated before makes it much easier to do.

Parsers are conveint no doubt, they are powerfull tools for sure. Are they required?

Nope.

[Ercapote]

Trial and Error.

Any serious world firster would agree with me that it wouldn't be impossible to complete these fights, it would however probably take much longer, and more theorycraft beforehand instead of letting the parsers do the heavy mathmatical lifting. Optimal Rotiations don't need parsers to figure out it just as stated before makes it much easier to do.

Parsers are conveint no doubt, they are powerfull tools for sure. Are they required?

Nope.

how do you think theory crafters craft? my men seriously choose more carefully your words as you keep contradicting yourself...

I replied to you on a update from my last post.

and I undesrtand that with time fight will get easier and the use of parsers aren't needed....but when they fight are open and you are doing content with the lower ilvl possible and you are running to get those WORLD FIRST or just beat the fight in general then yes you need those parsers... that's why I said it's a must if we are to change the settig to our likes then we can say we don't need 8 man sisnce in the future we will be able to solo content...but that's not how it works.

[Jynx]

how do you think theory crafters craft?

How did they do it before parsers?

You can disagree with me all you want but just because calculators exist doesn't mean you lost the abillity to do math yourself.

Just because something makes it easier does not mean it's a requirement.

Look you love parsers we get it, but don't run around telling people it's a requirement when it isn't. Is it required to be taken seriously in the endgame community? Now that's a different statement entirely and due to the current social climate within the game and people obviously wanting to take the path of least resistance in what is admitadly a gruelingly difficult set of DPS checks of course that is a entirely different thing.

Would savage be beaten by now without parsers? I'm not sure I imagine it would have taken longer mainly for people to manually parse their data. Will I point my thumb down at raiders who parse? of course not it's a usefull tool for them and their goals, do I support a personal parser? Yes I do I feel it would help the game populace in general with a 0 downside for raiders or players if anything I encourage the game to reward players for being able to produce results for reaching milestones.

Does this make your statements any less wrong? No they don't.

snip.

Your obviously oblivious to the point I'm trying to make I'll stop trying to explain it and leave you with it. parsers are not "Required" they are an amazing tool nothing else.

[Ercapote]

snip.

how they did it? they didn't.... parser has been around since EQ1 era and that's a looooong time and well as it has been on ff14 for a loong time too it's nothing new, and if you seriusly thinking someone can manually parser you should go back ans see how a parser work and what they do my man.

Man... are you contradicting yourself on purpose?

you keep saying my point is wrong, yet you failed to explain how I'm wrong. And I'm not disagreeing with you my man, you are disagreeing with me, my point stand valid and strong with back up validation and information something you keep failing at telling and proving me why I'm wrong. instead you keep bouncing on this nonsense sea of "I don't even know what point you are trying to proof?

parsers are not "Required" they are an amazing tool nothing else.

technically -no, theoretically -yes, practically -hell yes!

btw thinking back

if you read back to my other post you will see that I agreed with what you where "trying to say" I'll quote here so you can see it.

"and I undesrtand that with time fight will get easier and the use of parsers aren't needed....but when they fight are open and you are doing content with the lower ilvl possible and you are running to get those WORLD FIRST or just beat the fight in general then yes you need those parsers... that's why I said it's a must if we are to change the settig to our likes then we can say we don't need 8 man sisnce in the future we will be able to solo content...but that's not how it works."

and as the lady said... that was not the topic of my post nor is the topic of this post. so with anything I need to add toward you let's keep this on topic.