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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ShanaShirayuki View Post
    But parsing is one of the many things used in theorycrafting, which in turn is used in all these guides the Anti Parsing crowd keep referring to. Also, I don't take much stock in someone who doesn't even have a level 60 DPS, much less a combat class, advice on improvement.
    Ah, excellent, belittle your opponent, what a productive and helpful strategy. You dont need a level 60 dps class to understand improvement. Apparently in ARR, the level cap was 50, so by your logic no one then was allowed an opinion about improvement? That would have been a shock tothose completing coil on a console.

    Oh, by the way, the only times I have refered to a guide in anypost was replying to a parser advocate claiming that guides onleexist because of parsers. Look, if you and anyone else wants to continueto push a line that essentially says you are no good if you don't use a parser, or you can't improve without one, go right aheaf, just don't be surprised when players who don't parse get annoyed. Go ahead and use your crutch, just don't hit anyone over the head with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Archaell View Post
    We should focus more on our ice mages and petrified monks. Would players who sometimes don't even bother to read tooltips do math to calculate optimal rotations? I don't think so... nor they would read up guides about their class. In this regard parser doesn't work as much as tool for theorycrafting, but more like motivator to actually read up about their job. Nothing motivates you as much as seeing how much you suck... and also the fear of being "harassed".
    Would players who sometimes don't even bother to read tooltips listen to advice on improvement from someone brandishing parser numbers? I think not, sad as it is, players who won't read about their skills are unlikely to care enough about things to improve.
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    Last edited by Kosmos992k; 10-18-2015 at 05:01 PM.

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    ShanaShirayuki's Avatar
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    Akali Kurai
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    Exodus
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Oh, by the way, the only times I have refered to a guide in anypost was replying to a parser advocate claiming that guides onleexist because of parsers. Look, if you and anyone else wants to continueto push a line that essentially says you are no good if you don't use a parser, or you can't improve without one, go right aheaf, just don't be surprised when players who don't parse get annoyed. Go ahead and use your crutch, just don't hit anyone over the head with it.
    I never said to be a good player you need a parser. Honestly now, is putting words in my mouth the only rebuttal you can come up with? I even mentioned that parsing is JUST AS valuable as experience, trial and error, whatever you want to call it. How does that imply that parsing is the be-all end-all? Where did you come up with the assumption that someone is a bad player if they don't use a parser in my response?

    Also, your lack of a combat class at 60 is a clear indication that you have no idea how current endgame content works. DPS checks are more heavily utilized and emphasized in endgame Heavensward content than they were in ARR. Everyone, including tanks and healers, is expected to pull their weight DPS wise. Thus your opinion carries less weight than if you were 60 since you've never experienced said content yet.
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    "SCREW IT GOING WHM AST CAN'T DEFEND THEMSELVES" -Noob Healer in Seal Rock 10/17/2015