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    Mature Rudlum
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    The only reason I would like a parser is to know where I'm going wrong so I can fix that or if I'm already high dps I would like to play around with rotation and see if I can do even better. What I don't understand is people getting so catty about it. It's for personal use. A bit like a fighting game training mode, you spend hours testing combos so inflict much higher damage so you can put it to practice in an actual match.and if it doesn't work you can always tweak it. But right now we have NOTHING telling us how well we are doing.or how can I improve.

    Are there any other MMO out there that got a personal parser?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    The only reason I would like a parser is to know where I'm going wrong so I can fix that or if I'm already high dps I would like to play around with rotation and see if I can do even better. What I don't understand is people getting so catty about it. It's for personal use. A bit like a fighting game training mode, you spend hours testing combos so inflict much higher damage so you can put it to practice in an actual match.and if it doesn't work you can always tweak it. But right now we have NOTHING telling us how well we are doing.or how can I improve.

    Are there any other MMO out there that got a personal parser?

    The thing is not everyone is asking for personal parser, some people want group parser so they can pick apart their group if they wipe. Pretty much to remove the supposed weak link and get a replacement. Which is the type of system I'm not for because part of getting the most out of ur dps is having experience in the content.

    Alot of us are chatting over some misconceptions, either side have. One of them is having a parser to improve or having a parser to see who in your group is doing well.

    I'll also like to point out you do have stuff that shows you if your doing well or not. First you can cross examine your battle log text fighting a mob 10 levels higher than you. If each skill is putting out a high number then you should be doing good. If you are using your damage increasing buffs at a good time and keeping your gear up to date then you should be doing good.

    You can always ask LS mates or FC mates for those who play the job you do as well and ask for tips, you can also ask you LS or FC to help you practice content you're new at.

    So saying you have nothing to help you improve is a bold face lie, I don't run my battle log text or flying numbers. << i have reasons.

    What i do is gage the mobs hp bar and calculating my hits based on how much % i take the mobs hp out with my combos. Then I try to use that to pick good times to do my buffs, I do the same as tank with my own personal HP, and cross referencing wuth how long each recast time is.

    I also still try to improve.


    As for mmo with parser, only 1 i know of that I played was DCUO but it wasn't personal, it was a leaderboard set up. Anyone had access to it in any given content and throught the content. At the end it will pop to see who was number 1.

    in dcuo no matter the role they strive to be number 1, most cases player would do content in their dps stance instead of their role stance. They would all rush ahead going in all directions to try and be number 1.

    This was because if you hit first and spam aoe you pretty much was on top. People didn't even play their role in a few cases that I saw, one moment i had people started to fight over the stupidest stuff that shoulda been basic mmo 1.0.

    This was a big reason I quit DCUO, that and toping charts as a healer was just... -_-;;;.

    o well not my fault my powertype and weapon choice was a bit too well picked XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azazua_azura View Post
    The thing is not everyone is asking for personal parser, some people want group parser so they can pick apart their group if they wipe. Pretty much to remove the supposed weak link and get a replacement. Which is the type of system I'm not for because part of getting the most out of ur dps is having experience in the content.
    You need to stop this, you keep saying the reason people want a group parser is to crap on everyone else but that's not it. It's because a personal parse is absolutely meaningless unless you can compare it to others. Remember parsers are mainly a tool for END GAME RAIDING, not for DF. However people will use it in DF for the same reason, to see how well they are doing. If a fight goes south and you have 200 DPS less than usual, with a personal parse you can sit there and wonder why, if you have a group parse you might see EVERYONE had pretty low DPS so on the overall you aren't lacking behind, if you however see everyone else was still clearly in front of you, you know that you handled the mechanics poorly and didn't keep your DPS up during them or optimise, so you need to improve.

    Alot of us are chatting over some misconceptions, either side have. One of them is having a parser to improve or having a parser to see who in your group is doing well.

    I'll also like to point out you do have stuff that shows you if your doing well or not. First you can cross examine your battle log text fighting a mob 10 levels higher than you. If each skill is putting out a high number then you should be doing good. If you are using your damage increasing buffs at a good time and keeping your gear up to date then you should be doing good.
    This sentence shows how little you actually understand, I am sorry but fighting a mob a little higher than you does NOT show anything. Just because a skill hits for a high number that means absolutely nothing out of context, warriors hit more than a monk with fell cleave, but damn sure don't do more DPS than a monk, a battle log tells you absolutely NOTHING about your DPS (Damage per second) unless you literally added everything up. over the course of a fight.
    As for 'using your damage increasing buffs at a good time' without a parser you cannot tell if you have increased your overall DPS over a fight or not, you're simply guessing. Individual hits mean NOTHING, damage per SECOND is everything. Keeping that DPS up during mechanics is what matters.

    You can always ask LS mates or FC mates for those who play the job you do as well and ask for tips, you can also ask you LS or FC to help you practice content you're new at.
    Where do you think the perfect openers and optimal rotations/stat weights came from? Using parser data.

    What i do is gage the mobs hp bar and calculating my hits based on how much % i take the mobs hp out with my combos. Then I try to use that to pick good times to do my buffs, I do the same as tank with my own personal HP, and cross referencing wuth how long each recast time is.
    Again this is not in a raid environment, that's where parsers matter, not on some mob in the field. You are completely missing the point.

    I mean no offence by this, but you honestly have NO clue what the parser is used for in this game, how it is used, and how the data is meaningful. You are offering some ridiculous alternatives that mean absolutely NOTHING in terms of raiding which is what the parser is designed for.
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