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[Whiteroom]

Um, no. That's just plain victim blaming, full stop. The blame for harassment lies solely on the people doing the harassment. The end.

You can absolutely criticize people or tell them that they are not pulling their weight. That's not harassment, obviously (and no one ever claimed it is). But if you're gonna be an asshole about it, that's on you, and no one else. There's no justification to harass people, with or without parsers.

While there may be no justification for it, this does not mean there is not a cause. I agree 100% that one should not be harassed for it, but that does not make his point less valid.

What does, are things like a reddit linked thread over in the "The issue noone wants to address" thread. This thread was a sampling of someone secretly parsing 100 Alex normal runs. On something like 16 different occasions, a low scoring dps called out other higher scoring dps as being the poor players.

Of course this wouldn't happen if there were a parser in game though, as everyone could see the abuser was wrong.

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On something like 16 different occasions, a low scoring dps called out other higher scoring dps as being the poor players.

I don't think that's 100% valid though. There are plenty of situations where generally excellent players screw something up because they play aggresively, pushing the boundaries, and that can easily turn sour when it doesn't work as intended. I'm not talking about tunnel-vision stuff, but in general it's certainly a possibility that the "better" player could've messed up.

I don't know the context of that particular discussion, if was only enrage issues (and not mechanics) then yes it seems pretty ignorant for the lower scoring player to call out the higher scoring one. We are only as smart as the information available to us

[Whiteroom]

I don't think that's 100% valid though. There are plenty of situations where generally excellent players screw something up because they play aggresively, pushing the boundaries, and that can easily turn sour when it doesn't work as intended. I'm not talking about tunnel-vision stuff, but in general it's certainly a possibility that the "better" player could've messed up.

I don't know the context of that particular discussion, if was only enrage issues (and not mechanics) then yes it seems pretty ignorant for the lower scoring player to call out the higher scoring one. We are only as smart as the information available to us

Have a look at that thread for the context. I would link, but I'm on my phone. While it was a small sample size he used. It's interesting. Also I don't think you understood the context from what I wrote. Better to go to the source. By lower scoring dps, he rated it at 200 dps for single target. A great player would have to die pretty early on to have those numbers. And if they were alive, wouldn't put up those numbers, regardless of trying something a little agressive.