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    _slowpoke_'s Avatar
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    Yayadon Yadon
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    So, one more time: How do parsers cause or increase the amounts of negative behavior?
    This so much. Parsers don't cause harassment. Harassers cause harassment. You can already report harassers.


    Dear anti-parser folks, are you against the Internet? Why not? People use the Internet to harass, every day. You should be against the Internet. And basically every other form of communication ever invented by humankind, because, you know, harassment.

    Sounds ridiculous? That's because it is. But that's quite literally the argument you are making. It's fallacious as hell.

    Mind you I'm not saying harassment is a fact of life, whether in meatspace or online, we should quietly accept. Quite the opposite, we should actively fight it. But to do that, we need to fight harassers, and not the tools they happen to use. If you are so against harassment, petition SE to hire more GMs and implement better rules and mechanisms so harassers can get reported, warned, and/or banned both easier and faster. Step in if you see someone get harassed. Make harassment something that's not accepted within the greater community, and which is actively punished if it happens anyway.

    But stop blaming some tool. A tool that does nothing but gather data & calculate numbers for you, because, you know, that's what computers are pretty good at (and humans suck at). It's up to you and your fellow players to give those numbers context and meaning. If the community is so shitty and toxic that people will use these numbers to harass each other, then they'd have done that without the numbers as well.
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    Misutoraru's Avatar
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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    Quote Originally Posted by _slowpoke_ View Post
    This so much. Parsers don't cause harassment. Harassers cause harassment. You can already report harassers.
    sames go for all the weapon in the world
    it is a tool
    it is the user intention causing all the trouble
    no one can be sure it wont turn into a tool being misuse
    and i can assure you, there are already ppl harassing other even without numbers
    we can avoid harassment via internet by not using certain software, not going to certain website
    it will help improve some ppl skills
    it will also be misuse by jerk
    it is inevitable
    a tool always have two side
    there are no argument
    ppl who support it feel the good out weight the bad
    ppl who against it feel the bad out weight the good
    those are all number from their experience or internet search


    we could tackle with harassment there are tons of way of solving
    but at the end, SE is a company, economically efficient will always be a big concern
    not implementing it is a way, extreme but effective
    increase more GM to handle harassment is a way, is it efficient? SE will have to decide

    there are no absolute right or wrong, in supporting it or against it
    ppl who support it or against it have their own concern
    each of us have our own ruler
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