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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Yet it is just the same, small number of players who are vehemently against parsers. Maybe those getting called out when parsers are used should look at themselves instead of the tool.

    Use you anecdotal evidence to answer this if you can, Why is it ok for a DPS to underperform and not be held acountable whereas a tank underperforming or a healer underperforming is? By refusing to answer it makes your points moot.
    Time for the daily "Because harassment" comeback they can't answer it because there have no legitimate answer to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MentheusDreyar View Post
    Time for the daily "Because harassment" comeback they can't answer it because there have no legitimate answer to it.
    But they don't see it as harrasment when a DPS is vastly underperforming which leads to content not being cleared.

    Yet they will probably be the first to complain if they keep dieing due to no heals, or wiping because the tank cannot be bothered to hold enmity on mobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    But they don't see it as harrasment when a DPS is vastly underperforming which leads to content not being cleared.
    Because their dps is good, they want to believe their dps is good, yet they fear the truth.

    When you have several DDs in the group it is easy to think "the game says I am the best being in whole Eorzea" so clearly the other DDs must do their job poorly...

    Of course the first approach to wipes is to ignore everything and go with basics: "We are dead. Who is responsible for keeping us alive? The healer! It is healer's fault!" *Vote kick commenced*
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    Quote Originally Posted by MentheusDreyar View Post
    Time for the daily "Because harassment" comeback they can't answer it because there have no legitimate answer to it.
    A lot of people like me are not against a parser in any way but get annoyed when people act like nobody has ever been harassed over it. Of course a parser has many benefits and of course harassment is harassment for whatever reason, but it's annoying to see some players (not referring to anyone in particular) play blind to the fact it's happened before just because they feel so strongly about having a parser implemented.

    In response to the thread? Sure, add a parser, it doesn't really bother me in the slightest. (Some) of the community just needs to learn to stop being so aggressive over DPS numbers. There's a difference between saying 'hey, your DPS is a little low, you could improve by...' and swearing and trying to make someone feel useless.
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    Last edited by WinterLuna; 10-13-2015 at 12:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterLuna View Post
    A lot of people like me are not against a parser in any way but get annoyed when people act like nobody has ever been harassed over it. Of course a parser has many benefits and of course harassment is harassment for whatever reason, but it's annoying to see some players (not referring to anyone in particular) play blind to the fact it's happened before just because they feel so strongly about having a parser implemented.

    In response to the thread? Sure, add a parser, it doesn't really bother me in the slightest. (Some) of the community just needs to learn to stop being so aggressive over DPS numbers. There's a difference between saying 'hey, your DPS is a little low, you could improve by...' and swearing and trying to make someone feel useless.
    I don't think anyone in any of the parser threads on either side are saying it never happens, it's just no where near as bad as they are making out. Either way a-hole will be a-holes with or without a parser, but the anti-parser crowd are using these minority to prevent the implementation of an incredibly useful that could help many of the players potentially improve without having to rely on other people or 3rd party software.

    The fact is we can't even give real advice due to the fact we'd have to reveal we are using a parser and therefore risk getting banned trying to help. Which just leads to us kicking those that are messing up and coming off as "elitist" and "jerks".

    Harassment is going to happen with or without parsers. Do you know what a no parser environment reinforces though? Pointing fingers without having a clue whose's fault it is. No parsers = no/less harassment? Nope. It's more often than not just as toxic if not more. In fact, with a parser people could actually defend themselves.

    The no parsers environment reinforces ignorance, lazyness and makes the whole FFXIV scenario even more casual and ultimately reduces the amount of decent content because the dev's can't afford to make anything even remotely hard or "mid-core" apart from pushing it to the extremes with savage difficulty for a select few. Which is likely the reason we haven't got this content, there's no general skill level to balance it too because people either seem to suck or are good, there is hardly anyone between those two points when you compare them. Which causes everything to get nerfed to the ground.

    Oh! look at that, i also found a possible solution to another community issue, lack of mid-core content!
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    Last edited by MentheusDreyar; 10-13-2015 at 01:11 AM.