parse for ps4 users !

[Jamein]

How about they just do a mass ban wave of all you parser users? That would be great. Looking forward to it.

Thank you for contributing to the discussion, also, the entire end game raiding community would be gone if they did this.

[Archaell]

Thank you for contributing to the discussion, also, the entire end game raiding community would be gone if they did this.

Not just the raiding community. This would basically remove most of the carriers, meaning that even casuals would soon get fed up with all the failed runs in DF.

It could be fixed with few nerfs, but these would just discourage your mid-core players from paying.

Sooner or later you get a nice social dead game.

[Chif]

That's mean if you play on ps4 can't be hardcore + raiding, with out pc users help ??

[Gilraen]

Chif... stop while you're behind. You've eaten more shoes than can count. The high level raiding companies have been operating on consoles since before PS4 implementation and have been doing so with minimal input from third party software. It's become ad nauseaum at this point to keep saying, but you don't need a parser to improve, just knowledge and awareness. You gain knowledge from practice runs, and awareness from playing your role intelligently. Sure, you can find guides online about how to perform better, but those guides weren't written in a vacuum with only a parser to guide them by. Someone put in the practice to see what worked and what didn't in practical situations. If you can't do the same then I don't see how a parser will help you one bit.

[sirDarts]

Chif... stop while you're behind. You've eaten more shoes than can count. The high level raiding companies have been operating on consoles since before PS4 implementation and have been doing so with minimal input from third party software. It's become ad nauseaum at this point to keep saying, but you don't need a parser to improve, just knowledge and awareness. You gain knowledge from practice runs, and awareness from playing your role intelligently. Sure, you can find guides online about how to perform better, but those guides weren't written in a vacuum with only a parser to guide them by. Someone put in the practice to see what worked and what didn't in practical situations. If you can't do the same then I don't see how a parser will help you one bit.

Yes, of course, a parser is just a tool that shows you where you're at, and whether your changes you are making while practicing are going in the right direction. It doesn't tell you what to do, it does not play the game for you, it just shows you how you are progressing.

Though, I would like to know which companies you are talking about when you saying that they don't need a parser. The majority of high level raid clears are done with at least one player being on PC and parsing, or by following a guide/video from a clear by a static that is parsing (all the "world's first" statics are definitely parsing).

[Chif]

Chif... stop while you're behind. You've eaten more shoes than can count.

I'm not eating shoes do you eat shoes ? Do you like eating shoes lol? Pls don't say any thing just keep eating shoes.

[Malevicton]

I love how the argument 100% of the time goes:

Person 1: "Parsers are helpful. They give you extra information and make life easier."

Person 2: "What? You don't technically need them, why are you saying that? You're obviously an idiot!"

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Like, I could totally eat dinner without using a chair. It's not necessary to the dinner eating experience. But I'd much rather eat while sitting.

[Whiteroom]

I love how the argument 100% of the time goes:

Person 1: "Parsers are helpful. They give you extra information and make life easier."

Person 2: "What? You don't technically need them, why are you saying that? You're obviously an idiot!"

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Like, I could totally eat dinner without using a chair. It's not necessary to the dinner eating experience. But I'd much rather eat while sitting.

Stop imposing your chairs on the rest of us!

[Gilraen]

Not saying the high level companies don't have access to third party software. Minimal isn't the same as 'not at all'. Chif's assertions, though, is that it's not even remotely possible without. He's been making said assertion this entire thread and refuses to believe that anyone can improve without a parser, even in the faces of those who have said in this thread they have. Bold-faced ignorance if ever I've seen it.

[Archaell]

Not saying the high level companies don't have access to third party software. Minimal isn't the same as 'not at all'. Chif's assertions, though, is that it's not even remotely possible without. He's been making said assertion this entire thread and refuses to believe that anyone can improve without a parser, even in the faces of those who have said in this thread they have. Bold-faced ignorance if ever I've seen it.

You need to understand one thing - Chif is a member of group of players that is right now at disadvantage, so no wonder he is frustrated and a little bit ignorant. Pc users have the choice to parse or not to parse (which bring issues of its own when you can see who is exploiting you for free tomes). PS users don't. They have to ask their PC friends for help and personally I would feel bad about having to bother somebody else whenever there is a new rotation to test out.

Acknowledgement of your points is nice and all, but it isn't going to remove his issue.