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  1. #81
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    DoctorMog's Avatar
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    Doctor Mog
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailok View Post
    The issue isn't whether or not DocMog decided to PL their friends, or get PLed. The CORE issue is that the option is there, which, as Mog has said, will be exploited while it's there. It's not a matter of "don't do it because you're a better person", it's a matter of "get it out of the game/tweak it so people can't exploit it, get tired of the game, and leave."

    I don't care if they leave in PLing, just don't make it SO obviously broken, and deny the fact that it is a broken mechanic is blind optimism at best.
    Thank you,

    There are intelligent people on the planet!
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  2. #82
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    Missionman's Avatar
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    Easy Going
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Leave it, SE is making this game only for few month, they dont plan to last for years. That is why they want all ppl get to 50 fast and finish little end game stuff and then every one left . Im glad i decide to leave game be4 that. Screw the dev
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  3. #83
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    Jennestia's Avatar
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    Kanikou Escaflowne
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by AlexNiculaie View Post
    I feel dirty. lol
    It made me lol because it wraps up a lot of the community's musings in a nutshell.
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  4. #84
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    Kytheren Kenni
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    Seraph
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Asai View Post
    Yea I mean you can't learn to drive a car unless you build one right?
    /facepalm

    No, but you must get a job.
    And you must bust your ass for months.
    And if you get a car loan,
    You must bust your ass for years. For the privilege to pay property tax on a car.
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  5. #85
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    LemmingKingXXX's Avatar
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    Jho Stumps
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    This is a game. It should be bound by rules set by the developers with the intent of being balanced, fair and enjoyable. If developers give us the tools to do something, and it is intended, then it should be used to the best ability of all players in the game.

    My issue with the system is that they went overboard.

    No more, no less.

    People putting words in my mouth need to stop.
    If you are referring to me among them, I never misquoted you I merely liken what you and your folks did to real life analogues. For my experience, it is never effective to create an example to prove a point when the point causes damage. The techniques you outlined are now explicit and can be searched and used by anyone, where before they may have only been implicitly known by a few which would have helped keep the process isolated. You may have very well shined enough light on this by creating your own example, and you may well have a good point that powerleveling needs adjusting, but the extreme nature of the example may bring an extreme response which may not be warranted for the reality of the situation.
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  6. #86
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    Bethor's Avatar
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    Bethor Bismarck
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    Shiva
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    Archer Lv 50
    The idea of getting a job quickly ranked up in 1 week is really appealing. That would've been a nice way to get some "Subjobs" level'd for some skills. But even if SE implemented this System and gave their OK.. in my eyes it's just wrong ><;

    I dunno if SE wants to push a lot of ppl to R50 so they can develop their content around these ranks and ignore low lvl stuff.. or.. making the SPing overall easier. Well now it is.. easier...

    I hope they'll have a look onto that "problem" soon. They just need a better system which works for everyone.

    I'm playing MMORPG's for fun and interesting character development. At the moment we don't have such development. We getting our Skills per Auto-Ding. Stats are still somewhat screwed (I know these will change with 1.20 or 1.21)... Moar Skills from Quests/Missions pwease ;;
    Oh and of course.. the R1-50 in 1 week or less :P

    Imagine playing FF8 and having all those G.F.'s from start! (swoooooosh!)
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    Seriously Why?

  7. #87
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    Ruisu's Avatar
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    Rui Oran
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    Faerie
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    Pugilist Lv 76
    Stop replying to these threads. We already know that they're probably going to nerf the exp gain by 1.19a. Seriously, these threads are dumb.
    (0)

  8. #88
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    Azurymber's Avatar
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    Azury Ariella
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 90
    how is a thread that brings up a serious issue dumb? By letting everyone level so easy they are essentially ruining this games future since new players will come into a game where its hard to level, and where everyone else has all jobs at 50. They won't get into good endgame shells and they will quit.

    Its like every patch SE screws something serious up and hurts this games future.
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    Mew!

  9. #89
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    Sephrick's Avatar
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    Sephrick Markarius
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    This is such an extreme example that it doesn't warrant any serious consideration.

    I consider myself a slightly above average game, and when all things are said and done I have about 20 hours a week to dedicate to gaming.

    So assuming that the average player had a PL on instant and beckoned call, they could probably do this in a week. No one in their right mind is going to sit at a computer for 19 hours -- only those who would have found a way to abuse any other system they implimented.

    So what if the average player can do in a few weeks what you all did in 19 straight hours?

    There's still crafts, materia, DoLs, catalyst farming, gear farming and that's not even touching the actual content.

    But for every group like you, there's a group out there who doesn't PL so they can do things like Toto-Rak at minimum level. That way they can say they won largely on skill alone. You all made the choice to power level, a lot of us have chosen to use this new system to enhance traditional play methods.

    At the end of the day, you reap what you sow. And I have a feeling those of us who are "idiotic" and practice a little self restraint will have a richer experience then those who rush to say "zomg first k wut next?"
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    Last edited by Sephrick; 10-11-2011 at 06:40 AM.

  10. #90
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    Sagagemini's Avatar
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    Saga Gemini
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    lol maybe i should go back to the game so i can get all of my dow/dom to 50 in a month.
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