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  1. #51
    Player Denmo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycloptichorn View Post
    Bullshit, take some personal responsibility for PL'ing noobs up to top rank, and screwing both them and us.

    You guys are taking this to ridiculous extremes...
    I'm going to quote everyone who used this argument against me:

    If the game allows it, then it's legal.
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  2. #52
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    vax's Avatar
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    Vax Redrick
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaireeka2025 View Post
    LOL. So basically, SE needs to fix this because the same scoundrels that are taking advantage and benefiting from PL'ing for 19 hours straight are the same douches yelling and screaming for it to stop like candy-addicted children.
    I think it doesn't care if it's pl for 19 hours or 2 hours. The other day i got my lnc from 31 to almost 36 on 1:30 - 2h and is just sad.
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  3. #53
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    The glorious tears make me very randy.

    Here's a suggestion: MPK the powerlevelers.
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  4. #54
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    Kytheren Kenni
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...isretarded.png

    This is one of the 8 people in our power leveling party. All of them getting the same EXP per hour. (except the rank 50 PLing them)

    1 rank 50 kills mobs for 7 others in the party at over 1k per kill.

    2,100,000 exp yesterday for each player. (See screenshot)

    Its only 1,700,000 to get from 1 to 50.

    1-50 in a day is possible. Thanks SE! This seems much better. Leveling was dumb anyway.

    Working as intended I'm sure.

    /sar cas em


    So when is crafting getting EXP chains?

    XD
    Hey look! Hard, cold numbers! Thank you. This should bring at least 20% of these ignorant idiots into the light.

    Surely, I wasn't trying to be offensive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vahzl View Post
    Here we go again, thankfully the mods are on now, so we can start seeing these threads closed.
    Funny how NONE of them are closed, right?
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
    For a real life example: If you could make $40/hr for sleeping at night or you could make $20/hr working in heavy construction somewhere. Which one would you choose, which one would you do more often if you could only choose 1? This game is the same thing, 1 is compelte bs and takes no effort at all... but it is more rewarding then the hardwork is. AKA all rewards and no work (SOMETHING THAT IS A MAJOR ISSUE IN MMOS NOW DAYS)
    I'd choose construction job. $40/hr isn't worth it with all the money I'd have to spend in medical bills for being a lazy ass who sleeps all day.

    But then again, I choose to only join traditional exp parties too. So, you know. Call'em how you see'em...


    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
    We are an endgame group, our goal is to advance the ls as fast as possible.

    Atm this is the optimal form of leveling, and the producer OKed it as being fair game (aka not an exploit). So we are going to take advantage of it until it is changes.

    But everyone in the group knows what the outcome will probably be if nothing is done. We will get everyone geared, people will have to wait for content and people will stop logging on and playing. <= this is the issue.

    Other linkshells not going at it as hardcore will see this slower, but the same thing will happen.

    The game does not have an endgame large enough to support a game with 80+% of the population at endgame.
    The rest of this is self-defeating. "Hey, look at us, we're digging our own graves!"

    Early XI was designed around slowing down the select few who had 19 hours to devote to something like grinding exp in one sitting. I wish I had 19 straight hours to play a video game. But the majority of us don't, and therefore SE does not need to act based on this example. No more burning down the forest to remove a single tree like they did in XI.

    Yours is the LS that had most classes on most character to 50 prior to this anyway. So why complain? Because those of us with commitments outside the game have a chance to keep the pace slightly?

    As I've said before, there's still crafting, materia, catalysts and Gil that requires dedicated grinding. This is a non issue and if the devs were going to do something, they would have.
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    Last edited by Sephrick; 10-11-2011 at 06:07 AM.

  6. #56
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    Zaireeka2025's Avatar
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    Sirius Dogstar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    You want me to play this game the hard way just to say I did it?

    ....
    What's hard about playing and enjoying content with friends? Aren't mmo's designed to earn what you battled through and achieved bragging rights?
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  7. #57
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    Cycloptichorn's Avatar
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    We are an endgame group, our goal is to advance the ls as fast as possible.
    That's idiotic, then. You're going to have an LS full of people who have no idea what they are doing and no skills that can be got with guild marks at all. I wouldn't want to be running Ifrit or DH with your crowd.

    The game does not have an endgame large enough to support a game with 80+% of the population at endgame.
    So why are you rushing people to the endgame? This is dumb, dumb, dumb of you to do.
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycloptichorn View Post
    That's idiotic, then. You're going to have an LS full of people who have no idea what they are doing and no skills that can be got with guild marks at all. I wouldn't want to be running Ifrit or DH with your crowd.



    So why are you rushing people to the endgame? This is dumb, dumb, dumb of you to do.
    You assume people cant learn how to play if they get powerleveled.

    Let me brake this down for you:

    Get powerleveled to 50 in a few days,
    Learn how to play that rank 50 over the next few weeks.

    STILL FASTER than leveling to 50 and learning along the way.

    "Learning how to play" isn't rocket science.
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  9. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    You want me to play this game the most inefficient way just to say I did it?

    Greatest reward for the least amount of effort is the most efficient way to do things.
    It's hardly ever the RIGHT way to do things. It's the lazy way to do things, it creates high-level players who don't know how to use their skills properly, and - let's be honest - it's not fun. You are robbing these people's fun away from them and they don't even know it.

    A lot of you guys have a screwed sense of Right and Wrong. Just because you CAN do it, doesn't mean you SHOULD do it.
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  10. #60
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    To be honest, I stand by Yoshi's opinion on PL'ing, but they need to tweak this so everyone can just go back to AH debates.
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