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    _slowpoke_'s Avatar
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    Yayadon Yadon
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    White Mage Lv 70
    What quite a few WHM also seem to forget is that Assize is also an excellent burst damage spell. If you don't need the healing, there's quite a few situations where it's really cool to use it to help with adds, especially because of its huge range (for example, Jagd Dolls in A4, Ravana's add phase, the first boss of Neverreap, the Curator in FC, etc).
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    A realm where one must apologize for being a victim is no realm worth living in.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hall of Novices, on Healer DPS

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    Lyrica_Ashtine's Avatar
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    Sadako Yamamura
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    Quote Originally Posted by _slowpoke_ View Post
    What quite a few WHM also seem to forget is that Assize is also an excellent burst damage spell.
    inb4 the anti-healer-dps faction rages on this
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    Fiona Greentear
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    inb4 the anti-healer-dps faction rages on this
    Oh, I missed the timing to remark that it's not my job to damage enemies, and if I do it's just a bonus, so don't expect it!

    But yes, Assize is great to use after a spam line of Holy to finish off the trash mobs who just refuse to die and also kill adds like the plumes on Neverreap (because they're invisible to DPS, right?).

    I don't use it on Curator though, because I can't one shot them yet and having to follow up with another spell to finish the adds is a no-no, since the bomb debuff is my priority. I -could- use it to help the DPS kill them faster, but all times I did it they did not switch to the adds to finish them, so I won't do it until I can 1 hit KO them.
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    Koromo Amae
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    Phoenix
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    Conjurer Lv 89
    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    Oh, I missed the timing to remark that it's not my job to damage enemies, and if I do it's just a bonus, so don't expect it!
    true, but this is how the first trash-pull (and every one afterwards if i have the cooldowns ready) in neverreap looks like with me:
    devine seal -> cure / cure II (based on dmg tank got while pulling) -> regen -> asylum -> eye for an eye -> cleric stance on -> switftcast -> aero III -> presence of mind -> holy -> assize -> holy -> shrout -> holy spam (until mobs down or mp below 20% or tank needs heal) -> cleric stance off -> tetra if needed -> normal healing
    thats 7 - 8 cooldowns in one pull

    even with low dps classes this gets the trash-pull down to 20% or lower, talk about healer dps
    recently i even once had the tank drop low while i still had over half my mp left so i just used bene on him and continued to holy XDD
    using cooldowns and dpsing as a WHM can make a run so much faster

    ps: i just love to see the dps running around like "what the f*ck?" when i assize-oneshot the feathers on 1st boss neverreap XDD
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    Last edited by deos; 10-15-2015 at 05:17 PM.

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    Fiona Greentear
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by deos View Post
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    Yep, that's basically what I do in every trash pull in Neverreap too, but I tend to Holy spam before Assize so I can Assize > Tetra/Bene > Shroud and continue the Holy spam. I tend to dps far less on Fractal because most people pull all the 3 groups until the Chimera location and with the Furore spam from the Iksalions, I don't have much time to DPS.
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    Last edited by Fevelle; 10-16-2015 at 08:31 AM.

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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    inb4 the anti-healer-dps faction rages on this
    i am against healer dps but even i use assize more often for damage than healing xD it's just too awesome >.>
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    Miranda Madison
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    inb4 the anti-healer-dps faction rages on this
    Its just holy that heals :3
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    Quina Patra
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 100
    As a main healer I use everything in my toolkit because its all amazingly useful once you get the hang of using it..

    and also because my tanks are almost never using Def CDs so I have to. :x (sorry tanks)
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    Blind Guardian
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    its not just healers. 90% of players dont play their class to their full potential; WHM's are no exception to this
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    J'karr Nbolo
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Assize should be used almost exclusively for the damage under Cleric Stance.
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