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  1. #51
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    Tizzy_Tormentor's Avatar
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    Tizzy Tormentor
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    Omega
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    Machinist Lv 100
    It is pretty challenging for healers, considering damage comes out hard and fast, both on your team-mates and the tank, usually at the same time, as a SCH I can handle it fine, Indomitabilty is just way too good in that fight, but as an AST, I had a few mana issues, especially when certain players think its a good idea to ignore chains for their sick deeps.

    Its a pretty nice healer check, considering how easy some of the dungeons have been up until then. Its a bit more unforgiving when other players don't move out of AoE's, which can be frustrating for a healer doing their best.
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    Last edited by Tizzy_Tormentor; 10-17-2015 at 12:03 AM.

  2. #52
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    NaliaBrown's Avatar
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    Nalia Danger
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 80
    I recently ran the Vault a lot as a WAR. Maybe it was my gear, but I always took a lot of damage in that fight. Tanking it isn't hard from a mechanics perspective, but I had to learn to manage my cooldowns and only switch to DPS stance for the middle phase where we kill all the little balls, then quickly get back to tank stance for the big hit.

    THIS SHALL BE A MERCY!

    As a tank, I found the 2nd boss of the Vault to be much more difficult. Knowing which way to face him for melee dps, where to stand, all while avoiding the Tears... Not easy. Though I'm also not the best tank.

    Now I've moved on to the Library and it's SO MUCH EASIER!
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  3. #53
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    Zephan's Avatar
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    Zephan Valeda
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    Leviathan
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Twilite View Post
    Hardly.. aside from Alter Pyre, I can literally go the entire fight without a single heal. No BS. That boss is just too predictable.
    The reason it sucks for BLMs is that you have to move way too much, meaning we can't utilize Ley Lines and have to constantly interrupt our long cast-times resulting in low damage. BRD has the same problems but they at least can turn off Wanderer's Minuet and maintain decent damage. Thank god it doesn't go up to 60 or else we'd lose any semblance of Enochian upkeep too and would just be wastes of spots compared to other 60s.
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  4. #54
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    Malevicton's Avatar
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Zephan View Post
    The reason it sucks for BLMs is that you have to move way too much, meaning we can't utilize Ley Lines and have to constantly interrupt our long cast-times resulting in low damage. BRD has the same problems but they at least can turn off Wanderer's Minuet and maintain decent damage. Thank god it doesn't go up to 60 or else we'd lose any semblance of Enochian upkeep too and would just be wastes of spots compared to other 60s.
    Like every other fight in the game, once you're familiar with it you can avoid a lot of the movement. It's not hard to do solid dps in vault as blm.

    As the person you replied to said, that fight is predictable.
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  5. #55
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    Yallaid's Avatar
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    Character
    Yal Aid
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 70
    i'm at this dungeon now on my WHM and I'm debating whether I should grind up to 58 so I can upgrade my weapon first; I'd been hearing that HW dungeons were more difficult to heal, but they haven't been too much so far.

    Sohm Al was probably the most difficult and that was mostly cause of a few of the trash encounters (those ice crystal things come to mind..)

    I guess I'll just sike myself up and bite the bullet tonight and queue. wish me luck
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  6. #56
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    chidarake's Avatar
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    Chida Rake
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    Omega
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    just gonna say this, I levelled sch and I hadnt touched it since way back when like maybe a year, and although my mp was low (shouldn't of been im just bad) I cleared that fight easily when I reached it.

    the fight is not hard to heal it is not hard to dps, yeah tank takes a bit of damage but nothing really special. overall the fight is not difficult at all especially if a scrub sch like myself can one shot heal it.

    as for that earlier comment about it being hard for blm.. lol just no.. so easy on blm.
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  7. #57
    Player Nadirah's Avatar
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    Nadirah Serenity
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 60
    My favorite is when I get chained to some ranged idiot already in the back of the room and I can't move far enough to break it because they won't stop tunneling.

    And when the tank eats Every. Single. Horse.

    And I got the chest in one of my first vault runs leveling AST after launch. Pretty but not my favorite. Held onto it anyway.
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  8. #58
    Player Nadirah's Avatar
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    Nadirah Serenity
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Those of you saying its not hard on blm haven't gotten a run where you're chained every. Single. Time.

    Sohm Al crystals are easy. Have tank pull the Tursus group down the ramp to give them time to turn to sprites. Regen the tank before he pulls, or adlo as he's pulling. You *want" aggro on them.

    Drag them down the ramp. They'll all start to explode at once. Move out, go about your business. Done.
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  9. #59
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    Malevicton's Avatar
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    Those of you saying its not hard on blm haven't gotten a run where you're chained every. Single. Time.
    Or... maybe it's just really not hard
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  10. #60
    Player Nadirah's Avatar
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    Nadirah Serenity
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    Or... maybe it's just really not hard
    No, its not, if you don't care about stacks or Enochian dropping.

    If you do care, its a pain in the ass.

    SE made high mobility fights and then gave black mages abilities reliant on standing in one spot.

    Ley Lines was ripped right from WoW, and Rune of Power. Which also sucks, for the same reasons. You'd think he'd have known it wasn't liked there either.
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