The Vault Last Boss - (Healer Feedback)

[Malevicton]

The difficulty has nothing to do with knowing how to heal or not. Personally, my problem is lag. If I lag even a millisecond, I'm dead. It's very, very unfriendly to those of us without the best connections. I don't even bother to heal that dungeon anymore. I know I'll get through the whole thing without losing anyone and that last boss will wipe us because sometimes I lag.

Not to just keep piling on, but I really don't see how minor lag would be more of a problem on this fight than any other tbh. Might make it harder to dodge puddles, but that's a lot of bosses. you have plenty of time for the knights. The flames are a dps check with 0 outgoing damage. I just don't see it. Maybe 1 or 2 extra tics of chains, but that's worst case and really the only thing; even that wouldn't put you back unless some other avoidable damage happens on top of it.

As others have said, it's only hard with bad teammates. If they take forever to break chains, stand in the aoe, or constantly need bleed/slow cleansed then it's a pain. With a decent group (not even a good group, just ones that don't stand in shit) it's as easy as pretty much any other fight.

[Alisi]

So coming from some one who is deliberately changing the tone and adding extra emphasis onto some one else's post, maybe its best if you dont claim other are putting words into your mouth, since that's exactly what you have done.

So basically you're agreeing with the word 'incredibly' but you just don't like the tone and emphasis. If anything at all, I'm just putting tone and emphasis in your mouth since you apparently agree with what I said. You made a blanket statement about that dungeon. I just gave you one example of how that blanket statement is wrong. Deal with it.

As for your comments, I never said I thought the dungeon should be nerfed. I never said SE should have to design dungeons because of my lag. I specifically said I don't heal that dungeon because of my lag. I'm accepting of this issue. I have not started any threads whining about how hard the vault is. Good try tho.

[Alisi]

Not to just keep piling on, but I really don't see how minor lag would be more of a problem on this fight than any other tbh.

Lagging in that dungeon makes it nigh on impossible to avoid the avoidable damage. The telegraphs come late so it looks like you're out of the flame circle but you still get damage. That sort of thing.

[Atoli]

Lagging in that dungeon makes it nigh on impossible to avoid the avoidable damage.

As someone who played with a bad internet connection and a computer with 3-7 FPS in FFXIV, I can say that lag doesn't make ANYTHING impossible. The only thing you have to do is learn to adjust your timing. Move BEFORE you see anything by remembering how long it will take for certain things to happen. That even works on way harder fights with lots of mechanics, but even more so in a fight like the final boss of The Vault, because he's just cycling through the same 3 things again and again.

You can't expect everyone else to bear with an incredibly boring fight only because your connection or hardware are not adequate.

[Alisi]

You can't expect everyone else to bear with an incredibly boring fight only because your connection or hardware are not adequate.

Where did I say I did this? Why do you people keep accusing me of this? I've said over and over again that I know which fights my computer can't stand up to and I don't heal them. I don't expect anyone to change. I never asked for a nerf. I was simply referring to someone who said that it's easy to heal if you know how to heal. That was all. /slash wrist. Perhaps I should elaborate and say I specifically mean HEAL and HEAL alone. I do those dungeons as a DPS because I don't have the same responsibility as a healer does. I do this specifically because I don't think people should bear with an "incredibly boring fight" because of my connection.

So please stop with this baseless accusation. /sigh

[DarkmoonVael]

So basically you're agreeing with the word 'incredibly' but you just don't like the tone and emphasis. If anything at all, I'm just putting tone and emphasis in your mouth since you apparently agree with what I said. You made a blanket statement about that dungeon. I just gave you one example of how that blanket statement is wrong. Deal with it.

As for your comments, I never said I thought the dungeon should be nerfed. I never said SE should have to design dungeons because of my lag. I specifically said I don't heal that dungeon because of my lag. I'm accepting of this issue. I have not started any threads whining about how hard the vault is. Good try tho.

Hmmm just no. Adding the extra word in created the deliberate change in emphasis and tone. If you re-read my post, its not me agreeing with you, its me stating your claims on what i said are not true since you are putting extra words into my mouth, which you claimed others were doing to you.

Anyway, this thread is about changing mechanics because of people lag that is out of the hands of the devs. Ergo, responses in this thread are about this matter. It matters not that you may or may not have created your very own thread about this subject, responding in this thread shows that there is an opinion being expressed on this subject matter.

Having lag due to your connection is unfortunate, however you can not expect the devs to change an encounter because some people have issues of lag coming from their end, not SE end.

To reiterate, there is a distinct difference between difficult in an encounter due to mechanical difficualty created by the devs and connection issues at the players end. The devs can do things about mechanical difficulty tuned too hard, they cant really do much about lag difficulty caused by player personal connections. Lag difficulty arising out of SE own servers has been addressed in the past with Titan hard mode.

[Alisi]

Anyway, this thread is about changing mechanics because of people lag that is out of the hands of the devs. Ergo, responses in this thread are about this matter. It matters not that you may or may not have created your very own thread about this subject, responding in this thread shows that there is an opinion being expressed on this subject matter.

Hmmm... no. I wasn't responding to the thread. I was responding to your blanket statement. I don't care about what people feel about lag. What I do care for is people making blanket statements about 'oh, it's an easy fight if you know how to heal. you must just be a bad healer.' This is what I was addressing and have been addressing since I've replied to your comment alone. I have stated and restated this in almost every reply I've done. There are many reasons why a fight might be hard for someone.

Let's just agree to disagree. I'd rather go do something productive.

[Atoli]

So please stop with this baseless accusation. /sigh

Sorry, my bad, I assumed you were the OP who asked for mechanics to be removed from the fight just because you consider it too hard with lag. I stand corrected

[Ashkendor]

It's hard for healers if retards stand in fires. That goes for any fight, not just the last boss of vault

Agreed, this is the only time I've ever had problems at this boss - when people can't dodge/do mechanics.

[Malevicton]

Lagging in that dungeon makes it nigh on impossible to avoid the avoidable damage. The telegraphs come late so it looks like you're out of the flame circle but you still get damage. That sort of thing.

Yeah, I get that, but that's true of every fight. I get lag makes the game harder in general, but why vault in particular? You said you specifically avoid healing vault because of this fight.