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    Vespar's Avatar
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    Leyna Crosse
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100

    The Vault Last Boss - (Healer Feedback)

    Just throwing this out here as feedback to SE. The Vault's last boss as a healer is incredibly unkind. There is so much stuff going on during the fight its difficult to keep people alive at all.
    If you (or your party) lag or miss a step, as a healer it pretty much means the party wipes. I've done several runs of this and nearly everytime atleast one party member died or it was an outright wipe.

    If just one mechanic were removed or eased up it wouldnt be so chaotic. But as it stands now its a nightmare to heal through it. Every other healer I talk to says they either refuse to heal it (which is causing longer Queues for that dungeon specifically) or they dread the thought of healing it. So far I'm the latter, but Im quickly debating just leveling in the Aery until I pass this dungeon outright. In fact, if it werent for the fact that I want the WHM body piece from here for glamour purposes I would likely have ditched The Vault ages ago.
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    Chiramu's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Cirra Maru
    World
    Famfrit
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    This fight is a nightmare for BLMs imo. For a healer this isn't hard.
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    OPneedNerfs's Avatar
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    Gridanian at heart
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    Zyxt Fair
    World
    Tonberry
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    Summoner Lv 80
    It's hard for healers if retards stand in fires. That goes for any fight, not just the last boss of vault
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    Darkmoon Vael
    World
    Cerberus
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Its not really difficult at all for a healer who know how to heal. Plenty of down time in between damage to manage mana regeneration. All classes by this point have good aoe healing, with whm and ast and sch being able to aoe regen of various kinds. No real big spike damage that absolutely has to be mitigated. Thing that need to be debuffed, but again its not that hard. Predictable mid-damage unavoidable aoe. Predictable chaining of people. keeping people with a regen on and topped up is not that hard here.........
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    Last edited by DarkmoonVael; 10-11-2015 at 06:36 PM.

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    ServerCollaps's Avatar
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    Mikon Chozo
    World
    Alpha
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    the fight just gets interesting when you want to dps all the time
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    Archaell's Avatar
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    Arch Idealist
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    Alpha
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    Blacksmith Lv 100
    As WHM my only problem with the vault is when somebody kills me with the chain - Medica II and carry on I do agree that if you get chained as healer while all the other stuff is going on it feels really brutal. "Tank needs heal! This dps stands in aoe! AoE under feet! Look horses! Ou... get the bloody chain off me!!! *Wipe*

    It isn't difficult, you just have to learn the fight and always watch for the horses. There are wipes sometimes, but one wipe or two adds up to the fun. At least a little bit of challange.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    I want the WHM body piece from here for glamour purposes I would likely have ditched The Vault ages ago.
    The best chest in the game imo, well one of the bests - no wonder we have to work hard to deserve it.
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    Khalith Mateo
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    When I leveled AST I was dreading doing this boss as I'm not the best healer, while you are right that it is unkind (I'd argue it's a little too much honestly) the damage is manageable. After healing the fight several times, I began to notice that the AoE damage has a certain ebb and flow to it during his casts that gives you some windows to safely cast and get people's hp back up, give it a few more attempts and you should start to notice it as well, it's hard to identify exactly when it is but if you do the fight more you'll see it.
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    Aeon Rakshasa
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    Lich
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    It's hard for healers when that last ultimate attack goes off and your computer decides "nope too much shit onscreen" and drops your FPS to about 2.

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    Twilite's Avatar
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    Miranda Madison
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    This fight is a nightmare for BLMs imo. For a healer this isn't hard.
    Hardly.. aside from Alter Pyre, I can literally go the entire fight without a single heal. No BS. That boss is just too predictable.

    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    It's hard for healers when that last ultimate attack goes off and your computer decides "nope too much shit onscreen" and drops your FPS to about 2.

    The main thing I'm sure that gets healers is when he does the burning circles + the horses + chain and then blinds your screen with Alter Pyre. That combination right that was often the cause of the few wipes I've been in. The healer can't see where the circles/horses are, and is probably chained too, and gets killed. For the chained both has to "swing" to their respective safe spots.
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    Last edited by Twilite; 10-11-2015 at 11:48 PM.

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    Whiteroom's Avatar
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    T'erra Branford
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    I've gone through there on WHM and AST pre buff. While its harder than some others to heal, there should be some that are. Most of the problems arise from DPS that can't dodge and refuse to break the chain. Swiftcast Raise should remove any problems with a death, and you can always leave a bad DPS dead after the ultimate.
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