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    Vespar's Avatar
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    Leyna Crosse
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    Summoner Lv 100

    The Vault Last Boss - (Healer Feedback)

    Just throwing this out here as feedback to SE. The Vault's last boss as a healer is incredibly unkind. There is so much stuff going on during the fight its difficult to keep people alive at all.
    If you (or your party) lag or miss a step, as a healer it pretty much means the party wipes. I've done several runs of this and nearly everytime atleast one party member died or it was an outright wipe.

    If just one mechanic were removed or eased up it wouldnt be so chaotic. But as it stands now its a nightmare to heal through it. Every other healer I talk to says they either refuse to heal it (which is causing longer Queues for that dungeon specifically) or they dread the thought of healing it. So far I'm the latter, but Im quickly debating just leveling in the Aery until I pass this dungeon outright. In fact, if it werent for the fact that I want the WHM body piece from here for glamour purposes I would likely have ditched The Vault ages ago.
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    Cirra Maru
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    Famfrit
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    This fight is a nightmare for BLMs imo. For a healer this isn't hard.
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    Miranda Madison
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    This fight is a nightmare for BLMs imo. For a healer this isn't hard.
    Hardly.. aside from Alter Pyre, I can literally go the entire fight without a single heal. No BS. That boss is just too predictable.

    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    It's hard for healers when that last ultimate attack goes off and your computer decides "nope too much shit onscreen" and drops your FPS to about 2.

    The main thing I'm sure that gets healers is when he does the burning circles + the horses + chain and then blinds your screen with Alter Pyre. That combination right that was often the cause of the few wipes I've been in. The healer can't see where the circles/horses are, and is probably chained too, and gets killed. For the chained both has to "swing" to their respective safe spots.
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    Last edited by Twilite; 10-11-2015 at 11:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilite View Post
    Hardly.. aside from Alter Pyre, I can literally go the entire fight without a single heal. No BS. That boss is just too predictable.
    I was talking about you cannot stand still on him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilite View Post
    The main thing I'm sure that gets healers is when he does the burning circles + the horses + chain and then blinds your screen with Alter Pyre. That combination right that was often the cause of the few wipes I've been in. The healer can't see where the circles/horses are, and is probably chained too, and gets killed. For the chained both has to "swing" to their respective safe spots.
    This is a large part of the problem. But the other part of the problem is frequently when I run this dungeon I have some strange half second delay on my spells. (or maybe Ive always had that delay and I just notice it that much more in this dungeon)
    The thing that gets me more often than not is being chained to someone who constantly feels it is necessary to stand far from the group, thereby causing me to have to run to the far end of the room just to break the chain. By the time the chain is broken, its done so much dmg to me and the rest of the group hasn't been kept topped off that I now have to spam heal to get back to a safe level of HP on everyone before the next aoe gets tossed out, while dodging all the ponies and flaming spots. I dont normally have issues keeping my party healed, maybe its just people's placement/play styles that is messing me up.
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    Zephan Valeda
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Twilite View Post
    Hardly.. aside from Alter Pyre, I can literally go the entire fight without a single heal. No BS. That boss is just too predictable.
    The reason it sucks for BLMs is that you have to move way too much, meaning we can't utilize Ley Lines and have to constantly interrupt our long cast-times resulting in low damage. BRD has the same problems but they at least can turn off Wanderer's Minuet and maintain decent damage. Thank god it doesn't go up to 60 or else we'd lose any semblance of Enochian upkeep too and would just be wastes of spots compared to other 60s.
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephan View Post
    The reason it sucks for BLMs is that you have to move way too much, meaning we can't utilize Ley Lines and have to constantly interrupt our long cast-times resulting in low damage. BRD has the same problems but they at least can turn off Wanderer's Minuet and maintain decent damage. Thank god it doesn't go up to 60 or else we'd lose any semblance of Enochian upkeep too and would just be wastes of spots compared to other 60s.
    Like every other fight in the game, once you're familiar with it you can avoid a lot of the movement. It's not hard to do solid dps in vault as blm.

    As the person you replied to said, that fight is predictable.
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    Zyxt Fair
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    Tonberry
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    It's hard for healers if retards stand in fires. That goes for any fight, not just the last boss of vault
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Quote Originally Posted by OPneedNerfs View Post
    It's hard for healers if retards stand in fires. That goes for any fight, not just the last boss of vault


    Agreed, this is the only time I've ever had problems at this boss - when people can't dodge/do mechanics.
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    Darkmoon Vael
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    Its not really difficult at all for a healer who know how to heal. Plenty of down time in between damage to manage mana regeneration. All classes by this point have good aoe healing, with whm and ast and sch being able to aoe regen of various kinds. No real big spike damage that absolutely has to be mitigated. Thing that need to be debuffed, but again its not that hard. Predictable mid-damage unavoidable aoe. Predictable chaining of people. keeping people with a regen on and topped up is not that hard here.........
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    Last edited by DarkmoonVael; 10-11-2015 at 06:36 PM.

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