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  1. #1
    Player
    Youkulm's Avatar
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    Arle Egress
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by samkitwood View Post
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    Follow Main Class Scholar speaking here. Oh sorry.... Didn't realize I was playing this game to make you and other nitpicky players happy. If I don't feel like DPSing i'm not going to DPS. Were talking about casual end game content here not savage. If you're having issues with your healer in Savage then maybe you should talk to them about it instead of complaining on here. Onto normal content.... If DPS is slow look at your DPS not your healer.

    My job is healer, not DPS. If I want to DPS, I'll DPS. If I don't feel like i'm not going to do it ( sometimes I just don't care. Sometimes I just want to zone out and heal ). All healer classes have DPS options and just because they have those skills doesn't mean we are obligated to DPS to please you or anyone else, we are there to heal. If you're not dead my job is done. Plus when I DPS and let the tank fall below 80%? I GET NOT COMMS! lol. Funny but true. Overheal? Comms galore.

    I can taste the salt which is funny coming from a fellow scholar.

    Play the class the way you want to play it. You're not forced to end game raid with these other healers so stop letting it bother you.

    When I run things with my husband and he rolls DPS instead of tank he usually does nothing about complain about the pug tank. Not everyone is going to play to your exact specifications or standards... Sorry, it's not how it works... which is something I also have to explain to him lol...

    Have to agree with Velox here.

    "If you don't like this, I suggest you find a different MMO to play."
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    Last edited by Youkulm; 10-14-2015 at 09:18 AM.

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    Rawker Stone
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    For me, it's easier to DPS with Eos than with Selene.
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    Blind Guardian
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I just love the Scholars that stoneskin the entire party and proceed to NOT ONCE ADLO/SUCCOR THE TANK PREPULL. Sch's honestly shouldnt even have stoneskin on their bar once u reach 60.
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    Kabz Il
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    Spriggan
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by sackm View Post
    I just love the Scholars that stoneskin the entire party and proceed to NOT ONCE ADLO/SUCCOR THE TANK PREPULL. Sch's honestly shouldnt even have stoneskin on their bar once u reach 60.
    Firstly, Succor before a pull sounds like it would be completely useless because 99% of the time only the tank will initially take damage. I like to apply Stoneskins just as a mob is about to die to save time, and around 90% of the time cannot apply Adlo because the tanks seem to always be running for their lives to finish dungeons.
    Secondly, not having Stoneskin on your bar would make you a rubbish healer. There have been countless times on A1S that, during the jump, someone has the weakness debuff and they were only able to survive getting a deployed Adlo AND Stoneskin / Sacred Soil. You get EVERY ability for a reason, make it work or just be a sub-par *insert job here*.
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    technole's Avatar
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    Thea Sitori
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 72
    It is true there are casual SCHs that think they are WHMs though and never seem to use Adlo pre-pulls and only stoneskin, or using that skill so often you wonder if they even know that Adlo is the de-facto best shield ever. Stoneskin is still good to have to cover weakness debuff situations and they won't survive without more than their weakness HP, and could be used in situations to "heal" where you are in clerics.

    Now Succor before the pull was absolutely worth it back in Turn 11 and 13. The party getting hit not long after the pull situations were far-and-between. With Deployment Tactics now, we have a better option.
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    Totocha Tocha
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 60
    My primary reason for having Stoneskin up on everyone besides the tank is simply to easily see who is getting hit. My expectation is that people shouldn't be getting hit if they aren't tanking, but I've found that expectation is usually not met, in particular with melee taking AoE damage that they shouldn't have. After a few times seeing the Stoneskin disappear I know what kind of player I have and can watch them more closely.
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    Player Nadirah's Avatar
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    Nadirah Serenity
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    As a whm I almost never have time to DPS in those dungeons because the tanks are all mouthbreathing idiots.
    Nothing like trying to get a set of dots out and the tank isn't using CDs and drops like a rock...
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    Xizzy Azenith
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by sackm View Post
    if they arent comfortable with it, they really messed up the first 50 levels of the game because it practically BEGS you to use cleric with how pitiful the amount of outgoing damage is
    Agreed, and let's assume they aren't comfortable. Well id rather they fail and let me die trying to learn how to DPS. Than to be too scared to try it in fear someone will criticize them for letting them die.

    The best people on this planet understand you can't be afraid to make mistakes and learn from them. Someone who's already successful had their fair share of mistakes so don't let their criticisms deter you from improving.
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    Jican Marquees
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Botanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by samkitwood View Post
    why are 90% of scholars in this game adamant on not wanting to dps? Its what your role does so do it. I main scholar n a fair amount of trust can be placed on eos/selene when it comes to general healing (tank busters and such obv not included) so why when I am tanking for example do I repeatedly see scholars thinking 'hey, that drk just used unmend n is running up to next mob, I think ill have eos use whispering dawn n then swiftcast stoneskin on him just so he's safe'. No, just no. Just because your pet is on obey doesn't mean your doing things well. On top of this when the mobs are nearly down n I'm at 70-80% hp you don't need to use lustrate ill sort myself out from there. Stick to whm if ya don't wanna dps n find a new game if ya cba or too ignorant to learn how things should be done
    90% of the sch on Moogle maybe, but not everyone plays this way. I'm going to beat a dead horse on this. YOU don't control how other people play, get used to it. A HEALER'S job is to HEAL. Everything else is extra, above and beyond, and should NOT be expected. That doesn't make them "bad" at their job, or lazy, or w/e. If they want to lustrate to burn through their remaining stacks before getting more, more power to them. It's THEIR style, not yours.

    Did you throw out some pointer to them, or just seethe silently so you could come on here to have a reason to complain. Were you attempting to give advice while being a salty cod like you are being on here? ADVICE that can either be taken, or ignored, but at least you did more than sit on the forums complaining. But then, you wouldn't be generalizing about all sch, you would be complaining that so and so didn't take your advice. No, you're here saying 90% of all sch suck because you said so. Perhaps it's YOU that should find a new game. People like you are toxic to the community as a whole.
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    Last edited by Jican; 10-29-2015 at 11:18 PM. Reason: Foolish character limits

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