useless scholars

[Lastelli]

Hmmmm...how did you get your math? On tanks the numbers are totally less. On a 19000K HP tank, which is what ilv200 DK and Pally should be, 30% would heal 5700, EVERYTIME, cleric stance or not, diseased or not.

901 Healing Lustrate right now heals about 4K average, I just popped 12 lustrates in a row on this AFK guy and not a single one crit.

1) in the current meta, tanks are generally around 18k (because slaying jewels);
2) lustrate was 25% iirc, so around 4500 HP per lustrate if it wasn't changed.
Lustrate now heals for about the same amount of HP on a well equipped SCH...and this is why it is less effective on WARs with defiance on...but since most WARs tank in deliverance now it's not really a problem lol

[thunderbreak]

Ok, if it's 25% then I remembered wrong, but if it heals about the same but can't be as effective in cleric stance or diseased isn't that still a nerf? I mean this topic is about Scholars not dpsing, and I feel lustrate has a contribution factor to it for sure.

And about that deliverance tanking....I'm really wondering if this is intended by SE or not.

[Risvertasashi]

And about that deliverance tanking....I'm really wondering if this is intended by SE or not.

I don't think it was particularly intended-- they're changing tank damage calculations in 3.1, which kind of hints that "all STR accs, tank stance off tanking" was not really intended.

Of course, just changing the calculations of damage (presumably to make it scale from VIT at least partially) doesn't mean SE intends to completely do away with the meta that has arisen.

While I'm here... On the subject of lustrate, to me it's more powerful now. I did some testing in FCoB when I was maining SCH and my WHM was equally geared and I found this to be true on a warrior tank:
Cure was only slightly behind lustrate
Cure Crit was more powerful than lustrate
Cure + DS was more powerful than lustrate
Cure II was more powerful than lustrate under all circumstances save for healing debuffs

Of course, Cures couldn't (and still can't) be spammed like the 1-second recast lustrate, but 600 potency actually brings lustrate a lot closer to cure II and, as others have pointed out, it can crit now. And it's useful on DPS.

It can still be viewed as a nerf if you look at it strictly from being able to heal through debuffs and cleric stance. But in terms of healing power, lustrate actually got a boost/buff.