We had a *challenging* 4 man dungeon before called Pharos Sirius and that got nerfed cause of player complaints saying it was too difficult.

We had a *challenging* 8 man dungeon in the form of Steps of Faith and that was nerfed considerably due to players claiming it was too hard. I dont get the feeling many people in this thread remember original Steps of Faith. You had to utilize the simple mechanics of the fight and still meet a semi tough DPS check. Missing a Dragonkiller could prove fatal but again that was too difficult for the masses.

CT was supposed to be much more difficult but was nerfed before release due to devs beliving it was too hard to organize.